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stui magpie 
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Woah, that's a slam 
Not being able to hear the conversation doesn't help but nothing I can see condones that one.
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Pi
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Nothing jumps out at me except at least 3 of them seem to be left handed and the women aren't in uniform. |
Yep 3 left handed cops, what are the odds on that given about only 10 % of the population are left handed.
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David 
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| stui magpie wrote: |
Woah, that's a slam
Not being able to hear the conversation doesn't help but nothing I can see condones that one. |
Much more of this and "ACAB" is going to become bipartisan sentiment… (anyway, that cop is most definitely one)
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What'sinaname
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Woah, that's a slam
Not being able to hear the conversation doesn't help but nothing I can see condones that one. |
Definitely a sling tackle
At least 2 weeks. He'll miss the Grand Final. |
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stui magpie
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The bloke he slammed will be missing more than 2 weeks. If he hasn't got a fractured skull or jaw and multiple missing teeth he's a very lucky boy.
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eddiesmith 
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Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: |
Woah, that's a slam
Not being able to hear the conversation doesn't help but nothing I can see condones that one. |
Definitely a sling tackle
At least 2 weeks. He'll miss the Grand Final. |
If his name is Toby Greene he’ll get life, if it’s Joel Selwood he’ll get off 😉 |
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David
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think positive
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"Victoria Police on Wednesday announced it had suspended an acting sergeant from a specialist support unit "as a result of early enquiries".
Police are still investigating the incident and are calling for witnesses, including the person who filmed it, to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000. "
thats exactly what it is, the beginning, it says they are investigating, or should cops be hung drawn and quartered before trial!
Is there video evidence of how all the cops with broken noses, arms, wrists, etc getting their injuries? i wonder if they had body cams.
this was terrible, i cant see any justification for it, and i hope the @&$!S that punched up the cops for no reason, you know those men and women just doing their jobs to keep $£$%^%%$ idiots from going back to the westgate to terrorise innocent people sitting in their cars, i hope they end up in court too. but i doubt it.
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David
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I appreciate that they need to go through the proper protocols, but what's there to investigate, really? Everything you need to know is on tape, and as you say, there's no conceivable justification for it. I don't think hanging is necessary, but yes, that cop should be stood down and charged with assault, and I hope he will be.
I don't disagree that people who seriously assault police officers should also face criminal charges. But the fact of the matter is that, generally speaking, they do – whereas only a minority of police officers who do stuff like this have historically faced any consequences at all for it, let alone criminal charges. Actions have consequences – in this case, it seems, serious injury for the person whom the police officer decided to pull this tough-guy move on – and wearing a uniform shouldn't make you exempt from being held accountable for them.
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eddiesmith
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| Apparently the cop who stomped a mentally ill mans head into the ground didn’t get punished so yeah you definitely can’t expect anything here. |
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stui magpie
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He's been suspended while an investigation is conducted which is the appropriate thing to happen.
It is not an open and shut case and everything we need to know is not on the video.
The investigation needs to know background, context, how was he behaving in the moments/minutes prior to this, had he already been moved on before.
If the bloke who got slammed wants the cop charged with assault, he needs to make a complaint otherwise it won't happen.
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Pies4shaw 
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Or he could sue the cop for assault, seeking, amongst other things, exemplary damages. That claim would be decided on the balance of probabilities. I'm quite confident of that which a jury would conclude on the balance of probabilities, here.
Violent wrongdoers benefit, routinely, from the criminal standard of proof. People who want to challenge these sorts of unacceptable behaviours need to think smarter. |
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| David wrote: | I appreciate that they need to go through the proper protocols, but what's there to investigate, really? Everything you need to know is on tape, and as you say, there's no conceivable justification for it. I don't think hanging is necessary, but yes, that cop should be stood down and charged with assault, and I hope he will be.
I don't disagree that people who seriously assault police officers should also face criminal charges. But the fact of the matter is that, generally speaking, they do – whereas only a minority of police officers who do stuff like this have historically faced any consequences at all for it, let alone criminal charges. Actions have consequences – in this case, it seems, serious injury for the person whom the police officer decided to pull this tough-guy move on – and wearing a uniform shouldn't make you exempt from being held accountable for them. |
but. i hate that word, just about anything after that word is always an excuse.
everything you need to know is on tape....umm no it isnt, how do you know he didnt, say, spit in the cops face? no its still not justified but you dont know any where near the whole story from that clip. there is no sound and its not clear enough.
as for people who SERIOUSLY assault police, it doesnt have to be serious, wearing a uniform doesnt mean its ok to give em a bit of a slap!
do i have double standards? obviously, but so do you. have a look how many first responders are attacked or abused every day when they are just doing their jobs.
have a look how many emergency service workers suicide every year.
as for not being disciplined or charged, where do you get that from? how many of the thugs from the so called protests will actually face assault charges? how many got away with it? how about if your missus and son were in the car when those thugs jumped on the bonnet, and then opened the door and spat in her face? Cops are human, they have emotions and pressures.
you want to single out that one bad cop, how about all those $£$%^%%$ pricks throwing bottles and cans at the cops heads?
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David
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| think positive wrote: | but. i hate that word, just about anything after that word is always an excuse.
everything you need to know is on tape....umm no it isnt, how do you know he didnt, say, spit in the cops face? no its still not justified but you dont know any where near the whole story from that clip. there is no sound and its not clear enough. |
Well ... you said it! 
I actually do feel that you're the one making excuses, not me. I never said anything in defence of protesters, but you're the one bringing them up as if we can't consider an assault by a police officer without factoring in what police have to put up with in the line of duty. Sorry, that might fly for a cop who makes a mistake in a moment of panic or self-defence, but it's just irrelevant when we're talking about a police officer walking up to a stationary person from behind and slinging them to the ground so hard they get knocked out. If he was pissed off by some of the things he'd seen/endured earlier that day then that might provide a motivation for his act, but (yes, "but") it shouldn't be a mitigating factor in how he's dealt with – or, for that matter, in how we're discussing this case.
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eddiesmith
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Plus as shitty as it is, it’s part of the job. If you’re going to get that easily triggered that you overreact then maybe policing just isn’t for him.
At the same time I hope the investigation includes looking into their orders for the day. The cops were very clearly given free reign to do whatever they liked against the protesters and some clearly took it too far.
But if command is giving them too much leeway then some of the blame needs to fall back on them. |
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