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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:48 pm
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Six candidates.

Andrew McDonald

The most likely option and the man who Cricket Australia this afternoon appointed interim head coach while they search for Langer's replacement. Has filled in for Langer in previous white-ball series and also has an apprenticeship in charge of Victoria. Has overseas roles in franchise Twenty20 leagues, but could easily drop them to take on the top job in Australia.

Trevor Bayliss

Australian coach who guided England to their last Ashes win in 2015 as well as the 2019 ODI World Cup title. Is now back in Sydney coaching the Thunder as well as various other Twenty20 roles around the world. Has a close relationship with several players through his time in charge of NSW last decade, in particular captain Pat Cummins, with both hailing from Penrith. A known supporter of splitting the coaching role between red and white-ball formats. Has said the senior Australia job would be the only international coaching role he would consider.


Jason Gillespie

A genuine option when Darren Lehmann quit following the ball-tampering scandal in 2018 before Langer won the role. The former quick was also linked to the England role in 2019 after a stint with Yorkshire that included two straight County Championship titles. If he doesn't land the Australian job, there is every chance England could look at the current South Australia and Adelaide Strikers coach to replace the departed Chris Silverwood.

Ricky Ponting

While no doubt a popular and well-credentialled option, Ponting has previously flagged the workload of a head coaching role at international level does not appeal to him and his young family. Worked as an assistant with Langer for the 2019 ODI World Cup and has said he'd be open to short-term roles with the national side in the future. But with media and family commitments as well as in the Indian Premier League, the former Test skipper is an outside chance at best, particularly following the acrimonious exit of his close friend, Langer.


Greg Shipperd

An outside option who has made a name for himself with a long history of success in Australian domestic cricket. Would also be well equipped for a white-ball role if it was split, given his recent success at the Sydney Sixers as well as four seasons in charge in the early days of the Melbourne Stars. Again, has a close bond with many players after his time in the domestic roles.

Michael Di Venuto

Another current assistant alongside Andrew McDonald and Jeff Vaughan who would be the biggest outside shot on the list. Has been in and out of Australia's set up since 2013 as a batting coach, while also gaining head-coach experience at Surrey between 2016 and 2020. Alongside McDonald and Vaughan, has taken on more responsibility in recent months after Langer agreed to loosen his grip somewhat during the Twenty20 World Cup win.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:52 pm
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-05/cricket-australia-steve-waugh-justin-langer/100807988

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Waugh took to Instagram and posted a photo of a handwritten note containing words such as "transition" and "evolve".

The former Test captain wrote in his post he did not understand the reasons CA cited as to why Langer was not in its long-term plans.

"Plenty of Buzz words but no clarity as to why Justin Langer is no longer deemed worthy of the coaching role," Waugh wrote.

"Not sure how the team evolves and transitions form being loved by the public and being ranked number one is test cricket and the World Champions in T20."

John Buchanan, who coached Langer as a player in the national team, said Hockley had sent out mixed signals when explaining CA's decision-making.

"Nick Hockley basically outlined everything Justin did well, and then basically said he is unable to help the team evolve," he said.

"There seemed to be a heck of a lot of bureaucratic gobbledegook in that."

CA had already been strongly criticised by former Australian Test players such as Ricky Ponting, Mathew Hayden and Mitchell Johnson, who highlighted the success the national team had enjoyed under Langer since he became head coach in 2018 in the wake of the ball-tampering scandal.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:42 pm
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-06/justin-langer-cricket-australia-west-australian-reaction/100808426
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:29 pm
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Trevor Bayliss mentioned as a dark horse. Also Tom Moody. I would go with either David Hussey or Vogues.
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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:20 pm
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Bayliss only wants the gig if it's for the Test team only.

If he nails it, McDonald would be a good fit for the limited overs teams.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:25 pm
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Adam Gilchrist to become Australian cricket coach
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:43 pm
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Cummins:

“We are custodians of cricket, with one very big thing in common: our first duty is to Australian cricket, which is bigger than any one of us.

“I take this responsibility seriously. I live and breathe it.

“We also have a duty to our mates. Many former players have reached out to me and silently offered me their advice which is welcome.

“Some others have spoken in the media – which is also welcome and comes from a love of the game and their support of a mate. To all past players, I want to say this: Just as you have always stuck up for your mates, I’m sticking up for mine.



[SMH says it's part of a 517-word statement... No link to the full statement...]
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:50 pm
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The full statement is at the foot of this ABC piece: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-09/cummins-breaks-his-silence-on-langer-s-resignation/100816138
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:10 am
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Langer to coach the Poms?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:00 pm
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M. Conn:

Cummins stares down the Golden Generation over Langer’s exit

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/cummins-stares-down-the-golden-generation-over-langer-s-exit-20220209-p59v4b.html

"Days after a list of players Cummins idolised as a child came out swinging, when their great mate Langer felt he had no choice but to resign, Cummins showed the type of leadership in desperately short supply across the Australian game.
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It’s the responsibility of captains to act in the best interest of Australian cricket, not to be held hostage by the PR disaster that will ensue from an emotional outpouring by former players.

Cummins continued to uphold that responsibility with equal measures of dignity, respect and firmness on Wednesday...
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He talked about a calm, composed and collaborative approach, not qualities that come naturally to Langer.

The reality is that most of the players and support staff didn’t want a possible volatile presence in the room..."
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:06 pm
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FitzSimons:

Another perfect delivery from Cummins, but this is what he was really saying

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/another-perfect-delivery-from-cummins-but-this-is-what-he-was-really-saying-20220209-p59v4m.html

"Wow. Just wow.

I always knew Pat Cummins was a fabulous fast bowler, a great bloke and strong captain. But until now, I had no idea he could also play opening bat, wicketkeeper and opening fast bowler in the Diplomats’ 1st XI.
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In the history of sport, has a coach that has lost the dressing room ever got it back and prospered? And yet the former players are so presumptuous, so far up themselves they can see their own tonsils, as to say they know better."
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:14 pm
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Vid of Cummins addressing media:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/pat-cummins-breaks-his-silence-on-ex-coach-justin-langer-20220209-p59v1z.html

[18:51]

Wu: "Having earlier issued a 517-word statement staunchly defending himself and his teammates, Cummins spoke with candour and authority on the divisive issue while also remaining respectful of Langer..."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:07 pm
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Baum:

Coach class: Why Goodwin kept his job and Langer didn’t

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/coach-class-why-goodwin-kept-his-job-and-langer-didn-t-20220211-p59vo0.html

"The axiom about how changing the prime minister changes the country applies equally to the coach of a football club. Replacing the coach of a cricket team is more like replacing the head of the public service. In cricket’s separation of powers, the captain historically has the mandate. A football club takes all its cues from the senior coach. A cricket team takes his advice.
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You didn’t have to read far between the lines of captains Pat Cummins and Aaron Finch to know why. The Australian team had nothing against Langer personally and were grateful for his cultural rehabilitation, they said, but they wanted a more “collaborative” approach. In other words, they wanted a cricket coach, not a footy-style overlord.
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In August, while on tour with Australia in Bangladesh, Langer berated a Cricket Australia website staffer about a minor matter. It shocked some players, brought tensions to the surface and was the catalyst for a review process, prompting Langer to amend his ways, but ultimately can be seen as the beginning of his end. The captains - Cummins, Finch and Tim Paine, don’t forget - had their say. The coach went."
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:11 pm
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I. Chappell:

Why all the fuss about coaches? It is captains and players who win or lose matches

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ian-chappell-why-all-the-fuss-about-coaches-it-is-captains-and-players-who-win-or-lose-matches-1300842

"In particular, the demotion of Justin Langer caused Australian hysteria to reach the Monty Python comedy stage, where someone screeches, "He's not the Australian coach he's a very naughty boy."
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Anybody who thinks international players need coaching and mollycoddling 24 hours a day, seven days a week, is confused. ...

Why are fellow players the best international coaches? For starters they are playing against the same players. They are also out in the middle in the heat of battle and understand the trying consequences. They also see their fellow competitors regularly and will quickly notice any change in technique or mental approach.

It's much more important to have well-credentialled selectors choosing the right squad than it is to have the public ranting about coaches.

Using the title "head coach" is a mistake. Anybody looking after a team should have the word "manager" in their title. If the captain, with the help of a few trusted aides, runs the cricket side of the game and the management concentrates on off-field matters, a team will be very competitive."



[But in soccer "manager" is the title... And they have huge power.]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:04 am
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Langer got the job by default, and lost it by default; good riddance
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