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MatthewBoydFanClub 



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:47 am
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jatsad wrote:
It's a free hit. Minimum tenure for minimum wage.
If he succeeds, then look for a better deal.

In any case, an upgrade on Madge.

The upgrade is basically Brander is 6 years younger than Madgen so suits our age profile. Otherwise reality which many of us choose to ignore is Madgen is playing better football than Brander. Being drafted at 13 doesn’t make you better footballer than a rookie. You need better evidence than that.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:36 am
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MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:
jatsad wrote:
It's a free hit. Minimum tenure for minimum wage.
If he succeeds, then look for a better deal.

In any case, an upgrade on Madge.

The upgrade is basically Brander is 6 years younger than Madgen so suits our age profile. Otherwise reality which many of us choose to ignore is Madgen is playing better football than Brander. Being drafted at 13 doesn’t make you better footballer than a rookie. You need better evidence than that.


Why does is it an issue as to why the club chooses to get him? I have faith that McRae knows what he is doing and that’s all that matters. Maybe Brander is a back up for Magden? Whatever the reason is, I will support him in a black and white jumper.

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MatthewBoydFanClub 



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:21 pm
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Lazza wrote:
MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:
jatsad wrote:
It's a free hit. Minimum tenure for minimum wage.
If he succeeds, then look for a better deal.

In any case, an upgrade on Madge.

The upgrade is basically Brander is 6 years younger than Madgen so suits our age profile. Otherwise reality which many of us choose to ignore is Madgen is playing better football than Brander. Being drafted at 13 doesn’t make you better footballer than a rookie. You need better evidence than that.


Why does is it an issue as to why the club chooses to get him? I have faith that McRae knows what he is doing and that’s all that matters. Maybe Brander is a back up for Magden? Whatever the reason is, I will support him in a black and white jumper.

Me too. I'm happy for the club to get him. However this discussion is about the merits of Brander over Madgen with a few suggesting we delist Madgen to secure Brander. I have no idea what the intentions of the club are. All I'm saying is being a former number 13 pick doesn't make you a better player than Madgen and so far Brander hasn't displayed anything remotely deserving of a number 13 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:29 pm
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So yesterday my boss said that on the radio it was reported Collingwood were set to sign Brander as a delisted free agent. I haven’t seen it been reported anywhere officially.

When is the delisted free agency period?
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MatthewBoydFanClub 



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Rick wrote:
So yesterday my boss said that on the radio it was reported Collingwood were set to sign Brander as a delisted free agent. I haven’t seen it been reported anywhere officially.

When is the delisted free agency period?


I'm fine with it if it's true. But I don't think we should have a thread titled Jarrod Brander versus Jack Madgen.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:05 pm
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jatsad wrote:
It's a free hit. Minimum tenure for minimum wage.
If he succeeds, then look for a better deal.

In any case, an upgrade on Madge.


What requirements if any has Brander specified in terms of tenure and wage?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:08 pm
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MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:
jatsad wrote:
It's a free hit. Minimum tenure for minimum wage.
If he succeeds, then look for a better deal.

In any case, an upgrade on Madge.

The upgrade is basically Brander is 6 years younger than Madgen so suits our age profile. Otherwise reality which many of us choose to ignore is Madgen is playing better football than Brander. Being drafted at 13 doesn’t make you better footballer than a rookie. You need better evidence than that.


That's my reading of a comparison. Different positions and evidence suggests Madgen playing better footy.
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^ yep, and Madgen is part of our current depth, in the backline. Brander cant help there.
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I'd rather us not have depth in the backline than keep Madgen. Look what the Roos have done. Essentially:

* Sacked Trent Durmont (26 year old)
* sacked Shaun Atley (240 games and only 29)
* swapped R Tarrant to Richmond (33 years old)

Combined with off-loading many players last season. When you're in a rebuild please rebuild and clear the dead wood.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:02 pm
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/685110/west-coast-axes-versatile-tall-jarrod-brander

"He hopes to land at a club where he can play as a third tall forward"

So he's backup for Mihocek?

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^ Tarrant left North as a FA. They wanted him to stay.

Again, I was after Brander months ago. Something is not right and I wouldnt be giving a Madgen up for him

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:20 pm
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Point / comparison is irrelevant now.
Madden just signed a new contract. With Noble and Wilson.

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Not sure why the Magden v Brander debate
Unless its just a convoluted sack Magden thread

Depending on why Brander was sacked I agree look at him unlike our other new KPF's he doesn't need development.

Guess how much he asks for could be the deciding factor

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:05 pm
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MJ23 wrote:
^ Tarrant left North as a FA. They wanted him to stay.

Again, I was after Brander months ago. Something is not right and I wouldnt be giving a Madgen up for him


Tarrant was traded

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:01 pm
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inxs88 wrote:
When you're in a rebuild please rebuild and clear the dead wood.


To be fair tho, we've cut a lot of dead wood recently.

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