SIDCHROME SUPER TEST TEAM

JLC · Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 3:05 pm

Thats what it used to be called in the old days and im not sure what they call it now. Anyway here is my team

M. Hayden (Aus)
M. Vaughan (Eng)
R. Ponting (Aus)
M. Butcher (Eng)
N. Hussain (Eng)
S. Waugh (Aus)
A. Gilchrist(Aus)
S. Warne (Aus)
J. Gilesppie(Aus)
G. McGrath (Aus)
A. Caddick (Eng)

I havnt analysed the stats and i have gone from what i have seen and read. The batting i thought was difficult as Martyn and Lehmann didn't really dominate for Australia. Martyn had a great Perth test match but overall was disappointing. I ended up choosing Hussain and Butcher as they had to face the better bowling attack. Martin Love only played one test so he could not be considered. I found a place for Steve Waugh as i thought he was better than Martyn, Lehmann, Crawley, Stewart, Key and Trescothick.

McGrath Warne and Gilesppie pick themselves. The last bowling spot i gave to Caddick ahead of Brett Lee. Caddick has been criticised but he has taken a few wickets. Gilchrist picked himself.

I look forward to seeing everyone elses teams.

jlc

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Donny · Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 3:39 pm

M. Hayden (Aus)
J. Langer (Aus))
R. Ponting (Aus)
M. Vaughan (Eng
N. Hussain (Eng)
S. Waugh (Aus)
A. Gilchrist(Aus)
S. Warne (Aus)
J. Gilesppie(Aus)
G. McGrath (Aus)
A. Caddick (Eng)

Just one change, m8. Vaughan could bat anywhere and Tugga simply has to be in there for his captaincy. I wouldn't let Nasser lead my dogs on their morning walk. Lol.

Donny.

GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

Fradam · Joined: 21 Jun 1999 Location: Bendigo, Victoria

You guys arn't going to agree with my team but here it is anyway. I'll admit there is bias in there. It's maybe not the best team but its the team I like the best.

M Hayden
M Vaughan
J Langer
R Ponting (c)
M Love
A Glichrist
C White
S Warne (vc)
B Lee
J Gillespie
G McGrath

S Waugh (12th Man)

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JLC · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 8:40 am

Wow Martin Love ?? I dont think Brett Lee earned his spot in there. I don;t think he even played in the first test match and Bichel of all people was chosen ahead of him ??

jlc

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Fradam · Joined: 21 Jun 1999 Location: Bendigo, Victoria

I picked Love coz I like the way he plays, even if he only played two games. He impresses me, lovely timer of the ball.

Lee is averaging 41 with the ball this series which isn't great but I picked him more on ability than the series he had. None the other bowlers really impress me that much.

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JLC · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 9:16 am

Here is a link that shows the stats for the series
http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/NEW/LIVE/frames/ENG_AUS_T5_02-06JAN2003.html

Damien Martyn averaged 40.00!!! What do people think of the series he had?? After all this is a batsman in the prine of his career.

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Fradam · Joined: 21 Jun 1999 Location: Bendigo, Victoria

I thought Martyn was ordinary.

Stats arnt always the be all and end all coz Crawley averaged 40 and he was poor.

Maybe he isn't as good at 4 as he was batting at 6. We'll find out in the West Indies.

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JLC · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 9:50 am

Crawley bats like his name suggests. True stats can lie as really its when the runs are scored that count as well.....ie was it when u were 2-290 or 4 - 100 and the pitch and the bowlers etc...

jlc

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Donny · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:32 pm

Hey, JLC. I notice you have Mark Butcher in your team. Do you realise he averaged less than that old, fat, bald bloke in the Aussie team? Lol.

Donny.

GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

JLC · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:52 pm

And what quality of bowler did Lehmann face ?? Lets reverse the roles and put Butcher facing the English attack and Lehmann facing the aussie attack.

Still think the result would be the same ??

This was Lehmanns big opportunity to establish himself in the test arena and he blew it. U can't see him doing any better in the West Indies on the pitches over there.

jlc

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Donny · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:57 pm

JLC: "Lets reverse the roles and put Butcher facing the English attack and Lehmann facing the aussie attack.
Still think the result would be the same??"

No, m8. He averages much better against Aussie bowlers. 53.85, actually.

What would this forum be without you, JLC. Lol. You're our best customer.

Donny.

GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

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JLC · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 5:28 pm

Thats shield cricket where Lehmann belongs good point. He would be right at home in the four day game.

There wouldn't be that many occassions were he has to face Warne, McGrath in shield cricket as they rarely play. Obviously he never faces Gilesppie as they play for the same state. Therefore it would be very interesting to see him face them.

If only he could average 53 against the big boys

jlc

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Northern Pie · We are watching! Joined: 27 May 2001 Location: Queensland

JLC, I agree Lehman is better suited to the shield stuff. I do think that Love will go on to do really well in the West Indies and cement his spot.

Magfan good call on Hussain.....he is a shocker of a captain, I was actually thinking part way through the innings when Lee and Dizzy were getting on top of the bowling that he looked like he was throwing it away by spreading the field...thought he was doing a Tim Watson and handing it too us. He is a poor captain in my books and some of his field placings were atrocious...it is a wonder old Alex didn't stroll down and punch him one a couple of times.

just for fun lets ee what the peoples worst team would be..maybe call it the Super Cheap Auto Brand Spanner team...lol

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Donny · Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 9:39 pm

Super Cheap Auto Spanner Team

Trescothick - captain (if just for sending Oz A in at Hobart)
Butcher
Bichel
Hussain - vc (if just for sending Oz in at the Gabba)
Lehmann (just for you, JLC)
Crawley
Flintoff
Giles
Duncan Fletcher (wk)
Jones
Gough

12th. Peter Roebuck

Donny.

GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

JLC · Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 3:18 am

Very interesting to see that Geoff Lawson one of the people who was involved in selection of Vaughan said they considered the quality of the bowling attack he faced when comparing him to Gilchrist and Hayden. Thats exactly my point when comparing Butcher and Hussain with Lehmann and Martyn and Waugh.

Can you imagine the carnage that Vaughan would have done if he had faced the English attack >?> I shudder to think how many runs he would have scored then!!!!

Also don't forget that Lehmanns home ground is the BATTER FRIENDLY Adelaide oval. Im sure of the Victorian batsman like Elliot and Hodge would love to play on Batter friendly wickets every second game

jlc

Essendon 2000 premiers
2001 runners up
2002 fifth
2003 ????
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