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Cam 
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Feeling a bit disappointed this morning. But at least it will take away a little of the hype for a while. De Goey effectively shut down after quarter time. 12 touches in the first Q, 20 for the game. Grundy 80% of game time after 85 and 88 the last two games.
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Skids 
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Not going to win too many kicking a point in the last quarter.
Should have been all over at half time, some of those misses were a disgrace.
Lot's to like, but that's one we shouldn't have let slip.
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What'sinaname 
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| Cam wrote: | | Feeling a bit disappointed this morning. But at least it will take away a little of the hype for a while. |
Agree!! We won our first 5 games in Malthouse's first season and then went on to win only 2 more games for the entire year.
I remember the hype well. We out up an honourable loss to North and then got dismantled by the Bombers and then fell away badly. |
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BazBoy
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This was the general concencus as we commenced the journey with the new broom approach at Collingwood
There would be wins along with losses (like any season really )
It’s going to take time -we must realise this —finals will come if we stick to a solid plan which we have seen is more effective that what we were using prior to the new broom
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Mr Miyagi
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | Cam wrote: | | Feeling a bit disappointed this morning. But at least it will take away a little of the hype for a while. |
Agree!! We won our first 5 games in Malthouse's first season and then went on to win only 2 more games for the entire year.
I remember the hype well. We out up an honourable loss to North and then got dismantled by the Bombers and then fell away badly. |
And made two grand finals within a few years, one of which we should have won  |
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Damien 
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That 3rd qtr would be the most entertaining football I’ve seen from a Collingwood side since the first qtr of the 2018 GF. We can be disappointed about the result but this is a side we will enjoy watching for many years if this is a sign of things to come under Fly.
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masoncox
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| #26 wrote: | | Young players getting tired doesn't explain why we got slaughtered for clearances out of the middle in the last quarter. Plenty of senior players went missing too. |
The main reason was Grundy was stuffed and our back up Cameron was hopeless in the Ruck |
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Cam
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| masoncox wrote: | | #26 wrote: | | Young players getting tired doesn't explain why we got slaughtered for clearances out of the middle in the last quarter. Plenty of senior players went missing too. |
The main reason was Grundy was stuffed and our back up Cameron was hopeless in the Ruck |
Grundy stood at the boundary line waiting to come back on for 4-5 minutes but Cameron wouldn't come off. He waited, looked, waited, went to the bench to talk, walked back, waited. Meanwhile, Geelong had kicked 5 and it was that brief fightback window when the Pies were trying to get a run started. Grundy eventually got back on but it was too late and Geelong went bang bang. Eventually they sent the runner out and took Ollie Henry off instead.
The whole momentum shift happened after JDG got pinged for a dangerous tackle instead of getting a holding the ball call on Dangerfield I think it was? Dangerfield did another flop and got 50 for obstruction after disposal too, might have been earlier in the game.
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Mr Miyagi
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| Sidey, Pendles and Elliot were all off at the same time in the final too, far longer than they should have been. Sidey needed treatment but it didn’t help we had three of our most experienced off when Geelong were winning clearances. |
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GreekLunatic
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| Geelong Pensioners FC are going to be in for a long rebuild once their older players retire. At least we got some youth coming through. Also i love we have a game plan |
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Like to see Geelong in down the track minus Duckwood, Dawkins, Dangermouse, Cameron, and a few others, they carry this mob but nothing lasts forever. As for us, young team, learning a new game plan, under a new Coach, and we learnt a hard lesson tonight, never take your foot off the pedal, never relax, ever, though we seemed to run flat last Qtr. I reckon Krueger may have made a difference tonight and McCreery too, we missed them. On to next week and take it out on the Weagles here. |
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Magpietothemax 
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| Pies2016 wrote: | There’s two knock on effects that always come with a nine goal third quarter. The team that’s just kicked nine isn’t going to do anything different to start the last and team that just had nine against them is going to try something very different in response. We effectively forced the Cats to go direct and move the ball quickly and we simply had no answer to it. The Cats would have reset their centre bounce strategies and we were slow to react. Our defence lost its shape and we couldn’t get the numbers back on Cameron and Hawkins. I have no doubt the coaching group learnt a bit last night too. Our plan A stacks up but we have a shit load of work to do when it comes to plan B and when we need to pull the trigger on it.
Also, McRae is slowly learning about players you can trust when we’re behind on the scoreboard versus the downhill skiers when we’re miles in front and coasting. We have some ( young ) depth, so that will evolve as the year rolls on. In amongst all the rubble of that loss, there is a lot to be gained for the benefit of our end game. |
^ This reflects pretty much what Fly said in his presser. He said that our gamestyle is now very taxing energy wise, and we need to learn how to manage our energy expenditure so that it can be sustained across 4 quarters. That means in between Plan A (maximum energy expenditure) we need Plan B ("economy gear") in order to cut a balance across 4 quarters.
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Mr Miyagi
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Yep, knew it’d be a problem at the end of the third and into the 4th when we had players bending over gasping for breath on field and on the bench. Youthful enthusiasm gets you so far. We’ll straighten that up, Fly’s onto it. We wanted to win, no doubt about that, but there’s also a bit of experimenting going on to get a real sense of where the team and individual players are at. Fly and Leppa are shrewd operators and we’ll see adjustments pretty quickly. That was the issue with Bucks and Sanderson their final years — no new ideas and we just went overly defensive and stagnated.
And I’m still angry about Cornes and 9 footy show — got what he wanted.
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Pies2016
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| Lazza wrote: | | Clifton Hill-Billy wrote: | | That was an utter disgrace to give up that lead. It happens every time we get to 5 goals in front and just shut off completely and just let the opposition back into the game- it has nothing to do with having a young side, been happening for years. As has poor kicking for goal and getting killed at centre bounces when the pressure is on. We have also had years of not having a key forward to kick to. SSDD |
Bang on. Need to resolve the poor kicking and giving up a big lead problem first and foremost. Matching the opposition when they inevitably lift is a priority. Increase pressure on the ball carrier. Kicking straight will depend on “practice makes perfect” mantra. I think all of the above are achievable. It will take time to make it happen instinctively. |
Part ( not all ) of our goal kicking issues stem from where we are taking the shots on goals. The “ easiest “ way to improve goal kicking is to have the shots on goal taken from easier positions on the ground. The day we find a key forward who can once again take a contested mark, is the day we take our shots on goal from more preferable positions in the F50. All our forwards are virtually forced to lead wide because the corridor is always blocked by taller opponents. Conversely, a quality tall can draw two opponents out wide and make space for his smaller teammates.
Darcy Cameron kicked two sodas last night by simply being taller than his opponent and being positioned deep in the forward line. Imagine if we had a decent mobile 200cm forward under this game style. |
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Mr Miyagi
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| Just me or did Billy and a couple of others take their kicks way too close to the mark? |
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