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Donny
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Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Location: Toonumbar NSW Australia
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The only story I found in World Cup figures is good players all seem to do better than their overall career records.
Alan Lamb, Martin Crowe, Aravinda deSilva, Mike Gatting, David Gower, Kapil Dev, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Salim Malik and Mark Waugh all have better strike rates than Steve. Once again, bear in mind they all (except Dev) batted higher in the order than Steve.
Wasim Raja, David Boon, Richards, Mark Waugh, Glen Turner, Tendulkar and deSilva all have more centuries than Steve's 1 in 33 matches.
Gower, Saeed Anwar, Tendulkar, Lamb, Dravid, Raja, Crowe, Richards, Mark Waugh, Boon, Zaheer Abbas, and Turner all have higher averages than Steve.
What sort of selection criteria would it be to select someone because he did well in the last WC? That was 3 years ago!
We could argue stats ad nauseum but it's Steve's recent form (last 15-20 innings) that has him out of the one-day team and a batting average in the low thirties (over last 12 months) that is causing warranted speculation about his place in the Test team.
Donny.
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JLC
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You didnt compare him with the players i mentioned ?? Compare his form to the players in the current team.
jlc
Essendon 2000 premiers
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JLC
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batting ratings for performances in ODI World Cup Matches
ratings calculated by computer program Cricket Statistics for Windows
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SR Waugh
Aus
707
2
SR Tendulkar
Ind
703
3
A Ranatunga
SL
651
4
ME Waugh
Aus
650
5
Saeed Anwar
Pak
611
6
RS Dravid
Ind
607
7
RT Ponting
Aus
591
8
M Azharuddin
Ind
590
9
BC Lara
WI
578
10
RD Jacobs
WI
540
11
NC Johnson
Zim
529
12
PA de Silva
SL
518
13
RG Twose
NZ
517
14
L Klusener
SAf
516
15
GP Thorpe
Eng
507
data includes Match 1941 which began on 25th January 2003
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JLC
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bowling ratings for performances in ODI World Cup Matches
ratings calculated by computer program Cricket Statistics for Windows
1
SK Warne
Aus
770
2
CEL Ambrose
WI
758
3
Wasim Akram
Pak
755
4
AA Donald
SAf
744
5
CA Walsh
WI
702
6
A Kumble
Ind
661
7
GI Allott
NZ
644
8
J Srinath
Ind
642
9
GD McGrath
Aus
621
10
DW Fleming
Aus
580
11
CZ Harris
NZ
569
12
GR Larsen
NZ
539
13
BKV Prasad
Ind
483
14
L Klusener
SAf
468
15
M Muralitharan
SL
460
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JLC
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Donny
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You're a hard man to please, m8. You clearly said: "Please show me Steve Waughs record in the World Cup. I think that will tell a different story"
As for the players you mentioned, only Maher and Lehmann can be compared as the others are all-rounders and didn't take a spot from Steve.
Those two batsmen both have much better recent form.
Donny.
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JLC
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How is Symonds an all rounder ?? He very rarely bowls......probably as often as Steve Waugh He isnt out in the middle long enough to call him a batsman.
Mahers record isnt exactly brilliant
jlc
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couragous cloke
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another brilliant steve waugh innings! 110 i think, is it too late now!?? 3 sixes steve waugh style! looked in really good form.
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Donny
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Yeah, I'm not calling him an all-rounder either. But he certainly wasn't picked as a batsman which is the only spot Steve's diehard supporters (like you.lol) could have found for him.
As for that list you posted, any list that rated Arjuna Ranatunga ahead of Mark Waugh, Dravd, Ponting, Azharuddin and Lara has got to be suspect.
As this topic is about Steve Waugh, was there any particular point in posting that even sillier bowlers list - that rates Glen McGrath at 9 (!) and Murali at 15 (!!!) and rates Klusener, Prasad, Larsen and Allott ahead of Shaun Pollock (lol) - if it doesn't include Steve?
Donny.
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JLC
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its based on WORLD CUP matches
jlc
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couragous cloke
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, donny!! steve waugh should be in the side! ok? lol
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Donny
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OK, JLC, but you're using it as a reason to include Tugga in the present WC squad.
Should the Windies pick Curtley Ambrose? He USED to be pretty good too. And let's bring back Deano! He WAS a gun!
Donny.
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couragous cloke
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what about joel garner! what a tank!!!! man i'd be scared of him bowling to me
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MrsTarrant
I love you Chrissy Tarrant you rock!
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JLC you are draining it mate! I'm on your side with this one Donny! Look Steve is out of the team and that's that let's get over it already!
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JLC
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Another great knock from Steve Waugh
why do people write him off ??
jlc
Essendon 2000 premiers
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