The World Cup.

Donny · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:13 pm

Zimbabwe are getting closer to the Super Sixes with every drop of rain that falls.

Pakistan are 3/73 after 14 overs with Saeed Anwar on 40.

The match was first reduced to 44 overs per team and has since been further reduced to 38.

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Donny · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:45 pm

The Zimmers are in !! Rain has played it's part again.

England, Pakistan, South Africa and The West Indies have all missed out.

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Donny · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:47 pm

Feiko Kloppenburg became only the 6th player to score a century and take 4 wickets in the same ODI when he scored 121 and took 4-42 for Netherlands against Namibia.

The other 5 are:

Name For Against Venue Season Runs Bowling
IVA Richards West Indies New Zealand Dunedin 1986/87 119 5-41
NJ Astle New Zealand Pakistan Mohali 1996/97 117 4-43
SR Tendulkar India Australia Dhaka 1998/99 141 4-38
SC Ganguly India Sri Lanka Nagpur 1998/99 130* 4-21
ST Jayasuriya Sri Lanka Australia Sydney 2002/03 122 4-39
JF Kloppenburg Netherlands Namibia Bloemfontein 2002/03 121 4-42

Viv Richards is the only player to score a century and take 5 wickets in an innings in the same match.

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Donny · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:04 pm

Vaspert Drakes has joined Chaminda Vaas as the leading wicket-taker so far with 5/33 from his 10 overs. They both have 16 wickets.

Drakes' effort has Kenya almost down and out at the 21 over mark, as they are 7/55.

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Donny · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:07 pm

Kenya were bowled out for 104 in 35.5 overs with only their number 9 batsman getting higher than 14. Ongondo scored 24.

Germaine Lawson took 2/16 from 8 overs.

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London Dave · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:28 am

JLC, don't think reserve days would have helped SA (but would have the windies!)...if more than 25 overs are gone, I think it's and automatic D/L.

JLC · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:29 am

What a joke.......Zimbabwe pick up 6 points for nothing and qualify for next round. Kenya qualify by virtue of default as well.

Super 6's isnt really an appropriate term anymore. If Zimbabwe or Kenya make the semis this would be farcicle.

Im sorry but you don't have to be Einstein to have a reserve day for when it rains.

jlc

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What odds would ther have been for SA being the only African side not to make the super six....

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oh I forgot about Namibia....but still...kenya and ZIM through...they seriously need to look at this world cup and rectify the situation

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Donny · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:22 am

JLC, check the draw. As there are games scheduled almost every day, how could there be a reserve day for every game? Maybe it's possible. How would you do it?

There would have to be a ground, ground staff and a wicket prepared, all on standby. A logistical nightmare.

South Africa's fate was decided more by their own mistakes than the rain and as LD mentioned, once the second team has received half the overs the first team had, it's a match.

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Obviously if it were to rain for the whole three weeks then yes it would be a nightmare....but we really only had two perhaps three games effected by rain.....they have three days between the normal matches and the super sixes...surely any game in which the outcome was effected by rain could be replayed on these days????

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Donny · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:48 am

PP'03, My reference to 'a logistical nightmare' was to do with having a reserve day and venue for every game not about it raining for three weeks.

Your suggestion for rained out games to be replayed between the qualifiers and the Super Sixes looks reasonable on the surface but consider this quite possible scenario: Two rained out games involve the same team. This team, by winning both the replays, ends up on top of their pool and has to play on the first day of the Super Sixes.

That works out to 3 matches in 3 days, at least. This team might have played a 'rained out' on the last day of the qualifiers so they would then have to play 4 games in 4 days.

Don't you think the I.C.C. and S.A.C.A. World Cup organisers would have considered these factors?

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Donny · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:24 am

The top individual performers after the qualifying rounds are:

Most runs.

Tendulkar - 469
Gibbs - 384
Jayasuriya - 269
Atapattu - 249
Lara - 248
Styris - 237
Hayden - 228
Davison - 226

Best Average (minimum 3 innings)

Lehmann - 172
Styris - 118
Sarwan - 104
Symonds - 101
Gibbs - 96
Klusener - 91
Tendulkar - 78
Wishart and Akhtar - 72
G Flower - 69

Strike Rate (minimum 100 runs)

Blignaut - 160
Powell - 156
Davison - 118
Latif - 118
Styris - 110
Symonds - 104
Gibbs, AJ Burger and Wishart - 100

Most Wickets.

Vaas and Drakes - 16
McGrath, Akram and Bichel - 12
Akhtar, de Leede and Oram - 11

Average. (runs per wicket - minimum 15 overs)

Bichel - 2.75
Tikolo - 9.16
Vaas - 9.8
Gillespie - 12.25
Hinds - 12.57
McGrath - 12.66
Drakes - 13
Muralitharan - 14.58
Nissanka - 15.75
Nehra - 16.5

Economy Rate (runs per over - minimum 15 overs)

Bichel - 2.06
Flintoff - 2.87
Tikolo - 3
Lehmann - 3.09
Vaas - 3.14
Gillespie - 3.26
McGrath - 3.3
Nissanka - 3.31
Ntini - 3.37
Muralitharan - 3.45

Most Dismissals.

Gilchrist - 13
Dravid and Boucher - 11
Sangakkara - 10

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JLC · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:51 am

Well its a waste of time having all the minnows.....Namibia v Bangladesh like who cares.

They need to allow one minnow country maybe two at the most to qualify into main group of world cup.

The West Indies missed out basically due to losing two point due to rain.

There needs to be a contigency plan for if the match is washed out due to rain. The first stage of tournement goes for way too long and is a waste of time and is just done for tv and sponsorship.

Why not have the old situation where everyone playes each other once. The top four go through to semis. Then two winners play in final. Space games out so there is an allowance for a day to be washed out.

jlc

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JLC · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 5:54 pm

Ok so if Collingwood forfeited a game for good reason to carlton and the afl refused to transfer the game and a match was abandoned at mcg due to poor conditions and Collingwood missed out on the finals by 4 points. For the example we will say Carlton made the finals in our place by the virtue of the forfeited game. So you would think that was fair ??

Me thinks Eddie wouldnt be too pleased and more than likely would appeal or ask for rules to be changed....

jlc

Its not arrogance if you can back it up

Fate is what you are given, Destiny is what you do with it

Essendon 2000 premiers
2001 runners up
2002 fifth
2003 ????
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