Post Match. Pies down to Dees. All comments.

[Uncle Jack]

[Take_a_Screamer]

The Mason Cox Show @ 24:00 Melbourne vs Collingwood
https://youtu.be/305VY06dvZ8

[Pies2016]

[What'sinaname]

[What'sinaname]

Those who said Melbourne was a six goal better team, you were close. AFLxScore expected score:

MELB actual 66 versus expected 87
COLL actual 62 versus expected 59

If players scored as expected from where they kicked the ball, Melbourne would have scored 87 vs Collingwood 59.

[Jpies]

[rad]

The game against the Dees reminded me of playing WC in 2018.
Checkers plays his heart out every week but McGovern was too big for him and we know how that ended.
Watching May on Monday control Checkers game me the same feel as McGovern. I strongly believe we need a tall at FF all day against a May type defender. McStay might not be a gun FF but may be what we need in huge final games.

[Pies2016]

Interesting to note, Checkers kicked 4 against them last year but May didn’t play. It’s going to be a challenge finding the right formula, albeit it all starts in the middle anyway.
Krueger is a bit of a wild card in all this. He kicked five straight and then missed two more in the last quarter but more importantly, he did it against good VFL opposition ( as opposed to the VFL cellar dwellers ) If Freddy can get through one more VFL game with another haul, that might be enough to give him another chance in the seniors and with a bit of form behind him.

[stoliboy]

Yea Johnson played one of his worst games for the Club but I still think he has a lot of upsides. Is usually a great marker of the ball both inside 50m and on the wing… pretty accurate in front of goal and can kick a goal from outside 50m.

Ash has also kicked at least a goal a game in 10/11 games for us (except the last one) including multiple goals on 3 occasions - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/A/Ash_Johnson.html

McStay has kicked a goal a game 3 of his 5 games with no multiple goals - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/D/Daniel_McStay.html

I’d give Ash a break and see what McStay can do but I’ sure Fly will have a plan… he didn’t drop Bobby Hill after a lacklustre game against Adelaide and that worked well at improving Bobby’s form.

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

What was the wash up from the dees match.

Moore i think is the only concern ankle.

I dont think we had any other injuries.

No MRO either.

Was a clean game in that regard.

[pietillidie]

There's no point over-thinking that sort of game. Mentally and physically, we need the bye, while Melbourne played superbly. You need these losses during the season to help you set new benchmarks.

Take Pendles. He was spent, whether just exhausted overall or he had the dreaded bug. He's a good measure of general physical exhaustion because even though he's older, he's super disciplined and super fit. If the injury count was lower we might have made it to the bye in better shape, but not to be. Lipinski's contribution underscores what depth means.

Young blokes like McCreery and mature elevated players like Johnson, Noble and Frampton need to see what a slight drop off does against a good team.

Cameron needs time to build rhythm. Coxy was one of our best, I thought, but he needed Cameron to hurt them more.

Imagine how exhausted someone like Darcy Moore must be after his season so far.

Even the coaches had a bad one, the most obvious mistake being they used Nicky boy far too late. He and Mitchell were primed to carry us over the line. But remember, even the coaches have been up for a very long time.

We're still another gun midfielder, CHF and CHB short. It won't matter in better times, but it will show playing a top team while also exhausted.

The point being, everything needs to be assessed in context. Injuries were always going to determine our fate because our list is still thin. We'll be smarter next time, pay their tactics more heed, and run over them if our injury list is favourable later in the year.

[3rd degree]

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

Yep echo those thoughts there pietillie

We have not had an effective thats effective centre half forward since travis cloke.

Checkers and Johnson are ok but dont kick goals consistently for my liking.

They are not exactly like a jermery cameron and tom hawkins combination.

We are 2 players away from the real flag tilt but not nearly in 2023.

I always thought 2023 was a year of development and 2024 was our year and a year we took on an assult on the flag.

I key CHF and a specailst ruckman is what we need.

Just dont think darcy cameron cuts it.

Like to see Oscar Scenne and Begg given a go soon.

[lazzadesilva]

[Piesnchess]

I usually like Matty Lloyds comments,but he was way out of line on radio today. Just going on and fuckingon but how great Melb were, how other clubs can learn from them how to beat us, blah blah blah, blah. Does the flog realise we had no less than six stars out, six real play makers, out, including two of our best forwards, Ginnivan and Elliott, ? let alone JDG and Sidearse, ???? Plsu some of our guys were recovering from the flu, and that takes a lot out of you, both physically and mentally, ive had it, few times, you think your OK, but your not really, bones still ache. You would think we lost by six goals, not four lousy points, in his sum up, sure they missed shots, but Carlton do that every match, and we miss them too, bad kicking for goal is bad footy. I really cant wait to play these Deees again in the Finals with our best team on the park, put ponce Lloyd right back in his box, I have no doubt bout that. !