The "What do we get for Beams?" thread

[swoop42]

While we all hope for pick 5 and Aish if Brisbane come back today with a revised offer of 5, 21 and 25 should we accept that and get concentrating on other trade options or reject it and go looking for a better deal that may or may not come?

Picks 5,21 and 25 should essentially end up meaning 5, 21 and Greenwood.

While not as good it's comparable to the Judd deal of 3, 20 and a young Josh Kennedy.

It's a difficult one.

If we have pick 5 as well as 21 up our sleeve we would have more options available to us to when looking to other possible trades or an extra top 25 pick on draft day.

For instance if Hine didn't see much of a gap between 5 and 15 could we look to pass on pick 5 to the Gold Coast in return for pick 15 and someone like Lonergan to add some midfield grunt?

Alternatively we might trade pick 5 to the kangaroos in exchange for Greenwood and pick 16 meaning we would retain 3 selections within the first 25 (not including Moore).

At the end of the day if Brisbane aren't willing to add pick 21 into the mix then reject the offer pies.

Stuff em.

[Albert Parker]

5 and Aish is a good deal for the Pies.
Aish can play and is a good citizen.
Let's wait and see.

[Damien]

If it's Aish I hope we've checked on his old mans health and his potential for homesickness

If he leaves in 2 years time I'll blame Bucks!

[Lone Ranger]

He's not a slave. You can't make a player stay if they don't want to.

Of course you can ... he has a contract.
If you dont honour a contract, you are open to be sued for breach of contract.

[Breadcrawl]

5 and Aish is fair, and is what we have been asking for all along.

If this happened it's a win for us on many fronts.

Aish is like Bucks 2.0 - SANFL glory followed by a 'gap year' QLD holiday, followed by a long and distinguished career at Collingwood.

Hopefully he doesn't have to wait till he takes over as coach for a flag though

Brisbane are going to end up looking stupid.

Love it.

[jackcass]

Beams isn't a restricted free agent until the end of 2016 so no first round compo next year. Bris will still have to deal with us next year if they want to facilitate a trade without any problems. If not, the only way Beams can get to Bris is if he goes into the draft and they pick him up, of course leaving the window wide open for other clubs to pounce if they dare.

Beams senior ain't going anywhere too soon if he has "beaten the prick of a disease" as Dayne put it himself.

The AFLPA is pushing for RFA to be effective at 7 years, could come into effect in 2015 so a compo pick may well be on the cards... unless the AFL abolish compo picks...

[Museman]

5 and Aish is fair, and is what we have been asking for all along.

If this happened it's a win for us on many fronts.

Aish is like Bucks 2.0 - SANFL glory followed by a 'gap year' QLD holiday, followed by a long and distinguished career at Collingwood.

Hopefully he doesn't have to wait till he takes over as coach for a flag though

Brisbane are going to end up looking stupid.

Love it.

They will only look stupid because they chose to open their mouths and talk tough in the first place, all they needed to say was we will work hard with Collingwood to facilitate a for Dayne Beams....simple easy, leave your bridges unburnt....

I don't see it happening, they lose to much face if they fold now, Swann, Leppa, Warren, have all stupidly opened their mouths.

5 and Aish is still slightly unders.....

Langdons year was as good as his and we definitely wouldn't be looking to trade him but if a gun came up i'm pretty sure we wouldn't be ruling it out.

[MAY-Z]

While we all hope for pick 5 and Aish if Brisbane come back today with a revised offer of 5, 21 and 25 should we accept that and get concentrating on other trade options or reject it and go looking for a better deal that may or may not come?

Picks 5,21 and 25 should essentially end up meaning 5, 21 and Greenwood.

While not as good it's comparable to the Judd deal of 3, 20 and a young Josh Kennedy.

It's a difficult one.

If we have pick 5 as well as 21 up our sleeve we would have more options available to us to when looking to other possible trades or an extra top 25 pick on draft day.

For instance if Hine didn't see much of a gap between 5 and 15 could we look to pass on pick 5 to the Gold Coast in return for pick 15 and someone like Lonergan to add some midfield grunt?

Alternatively we might trade pick 5 to the kangaroos in exchange for Greenwood and pick 16 meaning we would retain 3 selections within the first 25 (not including Moore).

At the end of the day if Brisbane aren't willing to add pick 21 into the mix then reject the offer pies.

Stuff em.

Problem is Brisbane want the 21 for christensen so maybe this is what will have to happen

Collingwood:
Gain: Aish, 5, 25
Lose: Beams, 30

Geelong:
Gain: 21, 30
Lose: Christensen, 35

Brisbane:
Gain: Beams, Christensen, 35
Lose: Aish, 5, 21, 25

[AN_Inkling]

Brisbane still saying they won't trade any young players. Well Leppa is anyway:

https://twitter.com/JLeppitsch

[The-Den]

Brisbane still saying they won't trade any young players. Well Leppa is anyway:

https://twitter.com/JLeppitsch

How is his last tweet, very cocky. If we roll over and accept their deal I'll dead set be filthy. Pick 5 and a player nothing else.

[Deja Vu]

Seriously Leppa can get $@&^#.

No player, no deal. Try again next year in the draft if he's not playing for GWS

[Fatui Attata]

[PIES4LYF]

It's confirmed Leppa is a absolute f***wit. How does he expect to get something without giving something up. i think Beams must go. You can't have players not wanting to be there. It's a cancer for the group. Get Gold Coast involved now!

[mattdally]

Agree. Leppa is useless as a coach and acting like a knob.
Let's get GWS to the table.
Pick 4 and Pick 7* (acquired from Blues) and we sign up.

Thanks

[Damien]

Leppa is an AFL coach for one reason and one reason only: cos an incompetent administration sacked Vos cos they thought they had Paul Roos over the line.... But I digress.