#27, #7 Ben Kennedy

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:49 pm

Oxley was even worse.<insert holy shit emoticon>

piedys · Post by **piedys** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:49 pm

swoop42 wrote:Oxley was even worse.<insert holy shit emoticon>

I had a 2nd look at the game the other night...

Oxley was beyond putrid. "Resting him" won't get rid of the stench.
Kennedy's disposal was as bad as I first thought too.
These errors critically impacted against us on the scoreboard, just prior to half time, and then three-quarter time. Substantial 2-goal turnarounds.
Which really is a shame, because he does actually bust his arse to win the football for us, only to slaughter it. I can't fault his endeavour, simply the execution.
And it is Buckley I hold SOLELY responsible for this players lack of improvement in this area.
Fasolo just didn't deliver, yet his opponent wore him well.
Tackling efforts were great, but still needs to find more pill.
And Blair, well it should have been plainly obvious that the game has simply passed him by.

And that Jake Stringer is a freak of a footballer too.
Please tell me we didn't pass him over in a previous draft?

Dyso

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:54 pm

I reckon the best BK can hope for is we demote him to the rookie list, but that might be tricky if we rookie the junkies, If not I think we'll look to trading him, I'd be flabbergasted if he was on our senior list next year.

piedys · Post by **piedys** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:21 pm

Defender wrote:I reckon the best BK can hope for is we demote him to the rookie list, but that might be tricky if we rookie the junkies, If not I think we'll look to trading him, I'd be flabbergasted if he was on our senior list next year.

I'll just post the 2012 draft below; although taken at pick #19, I really can't see any player we've missed out on from #21 onwards, that you'd presently class as a "Hine Fail", other than James Stewart obviously...

1 Lachie Whitfield Greater Western Sydney Dandenong U18 2012
2 Jono O'Rourke Greater Western Sydney Calder U18 2012
3 Lachie Plowman Greater Western Sydney Calder U18 2012
4 Jimmy Toumpas Melbourne Woodville-West Torrens 2012
5 Jake Stringer Western Bulldogs Bendigo U18 2012
6 Jack Macrae Western Bulldogs Oakleigh U18 2012
7 Ollie Wines Port Adelaide Bendigo U18 2012
8 Sam Mayes Brisbane Lions North Adelaide 2012
9 Nick Vlastuin Richmond Northern U18 2012
10 Joe Daniher Essendon Calder U18 2012
11 Troy Menzel Carlton Central District 2012
12 Kristian Jaksch Greater Western Sydney Oakleigh U18 2012
13 Jesse Lonergan Gold Coast Launceston 2012
14 Aidan Corr Greater Western Sydney Northern U18 2012
15 Taylor Garner North Melbourne Dandenong U18 2012
16 Jackson Thurlow Geelong Launceston 2012
17 Josh Simpson Fremantle East Fremantle 2012
18 Brodie Grundy Collingwood Sturt 2012
19 Ben Kennedy Collingwood Glenelg 2012
20 Tim Broomhead Collingwood Port Adelaide (SANFL) 2012
21 Nathan Hrovat Western Bulldogs Northern U18 2012
22 Dean Towers Sydney Swans North Ballarat VFL 2012
23 Marco Paparone Brisbane Lions East Fremantle 2012
24 Nathan Wright St Kilda Dandenong U18 2012
25 Spencer White St Kilda Western U18 2012
26 Jack Viney Melbourne Casey Scorpions 2012
27 James Stewart Greater Western Sydney Sandringham U18 2012
28 Tim O'Brien Hawthorn Glenelg 2012
29 Tom Clurey Port Adelaide Murray U18 2012
30 Mason Shaw Port Adelaide South Fremantle 2012
31 Kamdyn McIntosh Richmond Peel Thunder 2012
32 Michael Close Brisbane Lions North Ballarat U18 2012
33 Liam McBean Richmond Calder U18 2012
34 Jason Ashby Essendon Oakleigh U18 2012
35 Tom Temay Carlton Sandringham U18 2012
36 Tanner Smith Fremantle North Ballarat U18 2012
37 Ben Jacobs North Melbourne Port Adelaide 2012
38 Jackson Ramsay Collingwood East Perth 2012
39 Max Duffy Fremantle East Fremantle 2012
40 Brodie Murdoch St Kilda Glenelg 2012
41 Mason Wood North Melbourne Geelong U18 2012
42 Matthew McDonough Richmond Woodville-West Torrens 2012
43 Josh Saunders St Kilda Geelong U18 2012
44 Harry Marsh Sydney Swans East Fremantle 2012
45 Brant Colledge West Coast Perth 2012
46 Tim Membrey Sydney Swans Gippsland U18 2012
47 Mitch Wilkins North Melbourne Norwood 2012
48 Dean Kent Melbourne Perth 2012
49 Lachie Hunter Western Bulldogs Western U18 2012
50 Josh Prudden Western Bulldogs Murray U18 2012
51 Dylan van Unen Essendon Frankston 2012
52 Matt Jones Melbourne Box Hill Hawks 2012
53 Martin Gleeson Essendon North Ballarat U18 2012
54 Nick Graham Carlton Gippsland U18 2012
55 Timmy Sumner Gold Coast Woodville-West Torrens 2012

Dyso

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:43 pm

https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews

Mr Hine's draft pick reputation is taking a hit it seems!

Deja Vu · Post by **Deja Vu** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:55 pm

Not opposed to this. I don't rate him.

Would we get a 2nd round pick for him?

Raw Hammer · Post by **Raw Hammer** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:59 pm

If Freeman goes, and we get zero for BK, then the Dale Thomas, Dawes, Wellingham trades are starting to count for nothing. We need to get at least ONE GUN packaged out of the departing NF and BK if true.

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:07 pm

Thomas trade= Scharenberg
Dawes trade = Broomhead and partially Ramsay pick
Wellingham trade = Grundy

(are all tracking ok)

Kennedy may be worked into a Jeremy Howe trade (may be a win/win)
Freeman: reckon we should push for 2nd rd this year and 2nd rd next year

Again time shall tell!

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:34 pm

If we're going to trade out Kennedy and lose Freeman we need to go after Aish surely even with Treloar coming IMO.

It makes sense that Kennedy would be looking for greater opportunity elsewhere so no hard feelings if he wants to explore his options.

Might be part of the deal for Howe.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:36 pm

inxs88 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews

Mr Hine's draft pick reputation is taking a hit it seems!

He was pick 19 in a mini draft compromised year, in that draft Hine plucked Grundy at pick 18 and Broomhead at 20, how is Hine taking a hit?

AN_Inkling · Post by **AN_Inkling** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:56 pm

Yeah we seem to have done well out of those, really, mid second round picks. I've been waiting to hear about a Kennedy move. Would have been surprised if he stayed after a disappointing season.

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:03 pm

Bob Sugar wrote:
inxs88 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews

Mr Hine's draft pick reputation is taking a hit it seems!
He was pick 19 in a mini draft compromised year, in that draft Hine plucked Grundy at pick 18 and Broomhead at 20, how is Hine taking a hit?

Freeman, Kennedy .... etc

On the March · Post by **On the March** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:05 pm

It does smell a bit like creating currency for another deal or recruiting a Howe /Watts (yes I know).

AN_Inkling · Post by **AN_Inkling** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:08 pm

There is no etc though. One player has left due to injuries another really hasn't been good enough. Strike rate is looking good. I've mentioned this stat a bit, but the Hawks were only successful with 4/8 top 10 picks when building.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:28 pm

inxs88 wrote:
Bob Sugar wrote:
inxs88 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews

Mr Hine's draft pick reputation is taking a hit it seems!
He was pick 19 in a mini draft compromised year, in that draft Hine plucked Grundy at pick 18 and Broomhead at 20, how is Hine taking a hit?
Freeman, Kennedy .... etc

Langdon-Elliot....etc

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