Our draft record under Derek Hine et al

[September Zeros]

Another sacking!

Wise man once say.....

"He who bet on every horse in the race will indeed pick a winner, but for the most part, he is largely ....a loser"


he also said......

"Man who put cream in tart not always the baker"....... But I digress from my point.

[September Zeros]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

We desperately needed speed. Unfortunately we still do. Varcoe when at full flight at least gives us something.

[Bob Sugar]

i would have thought a nick's poll would do the trick. we do polls well here. only need 47 votes to attain a majority.

China say the same thing about our general elections:

[Bob Sugar]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

We desperately needed speed. Unfortunately we still do. Varcoe when at full flight at least gives us something.

Yes he's done well considering he's the clubs token black fella, and don't get mad, y'all know its true, but if you want to debate it tell me how many indigenous players Hine has drafted in his 10 years at Collingwood.

[thompsoc]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

We desperately needed speed. Unfortunately we still do. Varcoe when at full flight at least gives us something.

Yes he's done well considering he's the clubs token black fella, and don't get mad, y'all know its true.

Well said Bob

[September Zeros]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

We desperately needed speed. Unfortunately we still do. Varcoe when at full flight at least gives us something.

Yes he's done well considering he's the clubs token black fella, and don't get mad, y'all know its true, but if you want to debate it tell me how many indigenous players Hine has drafted in his 10 years at Collingwood.

I'll leave the "token" part out of my discussion. But I agree we seem to miss out on the magic that the countries indigenous talent can bring into a team. Sadly our checkered past does not assist us in this area.

[thompsoc]

Just what we need really, some newby coming along regurgitating every negative baseless asinine thought ever expressed on Nicks as a new thread... that'll be fun!

Gee Jackcass it is newbie not newby.
Showing your age there old boy.
Put him on ignore so I don't have to read your negative asinine thoughts about him.

[Redlight]

Just what we need really, some newby coming along regurgitating every negative baseless asinine thought ever expressed on Nicks as a new thread... that'll be fun!

Gee Jackcass it is newbie not newby.
Showing your age there old boy.
Put him on ignore so I don't have to read your negative asinine thoughts about him.

I think, in this case, that the correct spelling of 'newbie' is actually T. R. O. L. L.

[thompsoc]

Just what we need really, some newby coming along regurgitating every negative baseless asinine thought ever expressed on Nicks as a new thread... that'll be fun!

Gee Jackcass it is newbie not newby.
Showing your age there old boy.
Put him on ignore so I don't have to read your negative asinine thoughts about him.

I think, in this case, that the correct spelling of 'newbie' is actually T. R. O. L. L.

Oh Relight, stop taking those anger pills.
Stop, chill out and smell the roses.

[ronrat]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

We desperately needed speed. Unfortunately we still do. Varcoe when at full flight at least gives us something.

Yes he's done well considering he's the clubs token black fella, and don't get mad, y'all know its true, but if you want to debate it tell me how many indigenous players Hine has drafted in his 10 years at Collingwood.

Yagmoor, Krakour, Tony Armstrong. Next.

[Jez07]

Our best KPP players are Brown, Reid, Moore & Cloke. 3 of those 4 have been on our list for 10 years, Moore was always going to be a F/S.

Pendlebury, Sidebottom & Treloar are our 3 best mids. One was taken in 05', the other in 08' and we paid way overs in the trade period for the other.

If you review Hine's performance, he has been an unmitigated failure for years.

[Pies4shaw]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

This assessment requires a degree of hindsight - 5 other teams had picks between Scharenberg and Cripps.

I have no idea why Collingwood drafted Scharenberg (that maybe become clear if he is ever able to get on the park for a consistent period) but it was obvious that they wanted Freeman for line-breaking run - Cripps has assets but that's not one of them. Freeman did look to have it, when he was recruited - although we may never (for which, read, "hopefully we won't, now he's gone to St Kilda") see that at senior level, given his injuries.

[Bob Sugar]

We desperately needed speed. Unfortunately we still do. Varcoe when at full flight at least gives us something.

Yes he's done well considering he's the clubs token black fella, and don't get mad, y'all know its true, but if you want to debate it tell me how many indigenous players Hine has drafted in his 10 years at Collingwood.

Yagmoor, Krakour, Tony Armstrong. Next.

Which one of those was drafted again?

[John Wren]

Can't believe Cripps went at 13 in 2013 when we picked Shaz and Freeman. Shaz may be as good in time.
Was Freeman rated as highly as a player, or did we pick him because of his speed?

This assessment requires a degree of hindsight - 5 other teams had picks between Scharenberg and Cripps.

I have no idea why Collingwood drafted Scharenberg (that maybe become clear if he is ever able to get on the park for a consistent period) but it was obvious that they wanted Freeman for line-breaking run - Cripps has assets but that's not one of them. Freeman did look to have it, when he was recruited - although we may never (for which, read, "hopefully we won't, now he's gone to St Kilda") see that at senior level, given his injuries.

i point to the wailing about the welfare (and their miraculously perfect list) and why we have no half back flankers who can deliver the ball cleanly.

[Jez07]

Scharenberg was drafted to fit a need but you never take risks in regards to injured players with your high end picks.

As soon as he was drafted, Scharenberg had to have two bones taken out in his kicking foot.

The 2013 draft has really been a failure.