The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

[Dave The Man]

[Bob Sugar]

Ed better not apologise.

[Dave The Man]

[Dave The Man]

Reports on AFL.com this morning, Caro calling Eddie's comments viscious and payback because he doesn't like her taking him to task. Take away the fact she's female, and it's a storm in a teacup, I believe, as all the criticism is centred around the "violence towards women" theme. Eddie can sometimes be an idiot (like all of us) but has the profile to attract media wide attention. Who's comments are worse, those from Eddie or Scott? Eddie needs to apologize for his comments possibly being misconstrued in a manner unintended. I don't think Eddie was advocating violence against women, simply giving Wilson a dose because he doesn't like her. Perhaps he should have directed it against Robbo.

and Caro hides behind being a Women with some of her Garbadge Articles.

Agree. IF they said it about Slobbo, Then it be Just Laugh and Games

[Dave The Man]

Caro has attacked Men on Footy Classifieds but you don't see people Kick a Stink about it

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Eddie's comments were silly, not quite sure about the violence against women, maybe it can be mistaken as advocating that who knows...but certainly should have put more thought into what he was saying.

It's not the first time, and probably not the last time as a media personality, or human that he puts his foot in it a bit. Just needs to carefully think about what he says a bit more.

Eddie's comments were neither silly nor anything to do about violence against women. It was friendly banter between himself and his team and self mocking and making fun of his humiliating experience of ducking under the ice, all for the good cause of raising money for research into MND.
This type of humour is as old as time itself. In the 1950's the most popular show on American television was The Honeymooners staring Jackie Gleeson. At the end of each episode after the Jackie Gleeson character would make a complete fool of himself, his wife Alice would extricate her husband out of the situation. At which point the husband would exclaim POW! Alice, you're going to get it one of these days and pound his fist into the palm of his other hand. The cartoon series The Flintstones was based on The Honeymooners and featured the same tensions between the married couple where Fred was always getting himself into trouble and Wilmer was the one to get Fred out of trouble, at which point Fred would say, Wilmer, you're going to get it one of these days. At no point did the tens of millions of people watching these shows ever think that Ralf (The Honeymooners) or Fred (The Flintstones) would ever lay a hand on their wives. All the mischief directed at the wives was figurative, not physical in any sense at all and for any viewer to think otherwise was more an indictment on the mental state of the viewer than the scriptwriters who wrote the shows. In fact these types of shows were regarded as wholesome entertainment.
This is an example of political correctness gone crazy, where narrow minded people with political agendas and an axe to grind against a popular media personality in Eddie Maguire, are pursuing their own agendas at the cost of free speech and a free society.

[GreekLunatic]

Shouldn't James Hird sue her from the crap she wrote about him

[Bob Sugar]

Damn there's some precious little petals over on Bigfooty.

[Dave The Man]

Caroline Wilson: Eddie McGuire's ice pool attack took me back to the bad old
The Age
June 20, 2016
By Caroline Wilson
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/caro ... pn1kv.html

I have felt uncomfortable all week about the Eddie McGuire-led attack on me last Monday.

I've seen him twice at AFL events and avoided him, not wishing to cause a scene or embarrass others. I really wish he would adopt more decent, conventional ways of dealing with criticism and perceived disloyalty.

To let his so-called jokey banter get through without trying to explain why language like McGuire's is so wrong would be letting down true victims of violence; although not for one minute am I attempting to compare my treatment to theirs. In terms of the football beat that I cover it's also important to reinforce the point that club presidents should surely not be contributing to the problem.

When my editor asked me to write this column my first response was discomfort. As a busy football weekend rolls into Monday there always seem to be so many good stories to explore and, believe me, I do not relish being a part of a story like this. Again.

My first response in these situations has generally been to shrug my shoulders and move on to the next issue. Surely I have to expect what comes back my way in response to strong and occasionally provocative opinions.

As an AFL executive commented to me on Sunday, it was heartening to see that I was tough enough to once again withstand the rubbish that occasionally comes from a boys club that I never want to join and would thankfully never have me as a member.

Clearly many of you reading this will be thinking that I bring much of this on myself. I have criticised James Brayshaw's leadership in the past and recently wrote a column asking whether McGuire needed to put an end date on his Collingwood presidency after almost 20 years. On Channel 9, I have a segment called Caro's Arrow every Monday night.

But his musings last Monday extended to referring to someone asking legitimate questions of his long-standing tenure at Collingwood as 'a black widow'. This sort of sexist nonsense has long been an acceptable part of his occasionally violent vernacular but I don't accept that it's jokey or banter.

I have no doubt that he was angry that I suggested he start thinking about a succession plan after almost two decades in the job. He felt that I betrayed our relationship which has teetered on the brink many times, over many years, but over the course of the recent past has been good.

As a journalist with strong opinions I fully expect strong feedback. Every time I write a column which might hurt someone I'm fully cognisant of how that subject will feel and respond. I regularly get attacked and generally move on. But the day a commentator starts avoiding the issue or stops saying what they really think about a genuine issue to protect a relationship is the day they let down their readers and stop doing their job.

No journalist no commentator, male or female, should have to put up with personal attacks for doing so. McGuire avoided the issue at hand. He played the woman and engaged a couple of willing blokes only too happy to do his bidding.

Knowing him, he is not going down without a fight. Violence against women is abhorrent, he keeps saying; even as a joke. Having said that he still took some time to back down about his comments directed at me which were supposedly humorous but in truth were laced with venom. The pressure for him to publicly apologise must have been significant as after initially defending his comments he eventually retracted them "in the spirit of what we're trying to achieve".

Disgracefully, McGuire had attempted to compare his comments last Monday with a conversation of an entirely different kind held in the 3AW broadcast box involving Tony Shaw. I am so sorry that my colleague, who made a brief remark to my face and there it ended, has been compared with the bully boys.

But no one should be surprised because McGuire's response to his latest inappropriate remark is a virtual carbon copy of his response to the far more damaging and thoughtless comments regarding Adam Goodes. Not for a second am I trying to compare the two incidents or the impact or hurt inflicted but McGuire's default position is so similar.

Back then he was a champion on indigenous rights. Now it's women. Back then he was a victim who came to empathise with the persecution of indigenous Australians. Now he's a victim again.

Back then, the Collingwood board and his media employers failed to take any meaningful stand against him. But McGuire's power and influence should not be underestimated. In so many brilliant ways he has earned it but somewhere along the line, bullying got him his way and too often he still runs with it.

It is so disappointing that the default position of the Triple M gang at such a momentous occasion as the freeze campaign for Motor Neurone Disease was casual violent banter against an individual they do not like.

It took me back to the old days of The Footy Show when the former host and Collingwood president would line me up in an occasionally vile and foul-mouthed way and enlist his colleagues in a series of sexist gang tackles.

What is not disappointing is that back then the attacks would vanish without trace. While no one at the Triple M club had any real issue with what took place last Monday until they were called on it, the wider football community has clearly started to change.

Typical Caro and her Attack on Men and the Boys Club

[Dave The Man]

And Caro probably muttered the same words and thoughts when ed went down the slide to

or Even Worse

[Dave The Man]

Eddie's comments were silly, not quite sure about the violence against women, maybe it can be mistaken as advocating that who knows...but certainly should have put more thought into what he was saying.

It's not the first time, and probably not the last time as a media personality, or human that he puts his foot in it a bit. Just needs to carefully think about what he says a bit more.

MMM should be on a Small Delay

[Piesnchess]

[Piesnchess]

AND I just want to reiterate, once more, IF EDDIE HAD SAID THIS ABOUT ROBBO, WHO DID THE DIRTY ON US AT SEASONS START, NOBODY, AND I REPEAT, BLOODY NOBODY, WOULD HAVE BATTED AN EYELID OR SAID ANYTHING, NOT EVEN ROBBO HIMSELF.


BUT, it was about the ol Pies hater female jouro Caro, who now turns it into some violence, race thing, and all hell breaks loose. and the dumb media and pollies run with it, now its a Collingwood hate diatribe. Words fail me.!

[jackcass]

You mean the Australia where it was OK to call an aboriginal player a spear chucker? Or the one where it was OK for a husband to beat his wife? Or what about the one where we could make fun of spastics?

The country grew up and realised that it not really cool to make fun of people because people have feelings.

Eddie does a lot of great things, but he also does some really stupid things too.

Seriously, in a thread on politically correctness you drag up an archaic term that hasn't been considered acceptable for decades to describe people with disabilities...

And are we to blame Eddy for all the sins of the Australian community? Don't recall him labelling anyone a "spear chucker" (sic) or advocating in support of domestic violence.. He's human, he's made some mistakes, let those among us who haven't be the first to cast a stone!

I'm also not sure about what circles you move in that any of these are in any way OK.

[HAL]

AND I just want to reiterate, once more, IF EDDIE HAD SAID THIS ABOUT ROBBO, WHO DID THE DIRTY ON US AT SEASONS START, NOBODY, AND I REPEAT, BLOODY NOBODY, WOULD HAVE BATTED AN EYELID OR SAID ANYTHING, NOT EVEN ROBBO HIMSELF.


BUT, it was about the ol Pies hater female jouro Caro, who now turns it into some violence, race thing, and all hell breaks loose. and the dumb media and pollies run with it, now its a Collingwood hate diatribe. Words fail me.!

Interesting. I want to find out more about you. That is a rather sweeping generalization about people.