The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

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Would the outrage be as great if the roles were reversed? Would Eddie be crying? Would she apologise, or would we call Eddie a wuss?

How about the Melbourne fans screaming out "drown him" when Eddie went down the slide?

Gees how much therapy do the umpires need after every game?! Man you hear some imaginative ways of dealing with them from the crowd!

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Well I'll be sending that right back to em with #teameddie on it!

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Christ, some people are daft. I feel genuinely dumber for having read most of this tripe.

R U referring to the thread? If so, whole heartedly agree, some downright disgracefully ignorant tripe

I'm sure both sides of the arguement think he is taking their side! Fence sitter post!

I thought he was reading 50 Shades of Grey.

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He, she just said on the news the only person defending Eddie was Pauline Hanson!

You gotta laugh!

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R U referring to the thread? If so, whole heartedly agree, some downright disgracefully ignorant tripe

I'm sure both sides of the arguement think he is taking their side! Fence sitter post!

I thought he was reading 50 Shades of Grey.

Hehehehehehee!

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Ridiculous overreaction from the humourless few that somehow feel empowered by their own empty outrage.

The comments were a joke. Quite a funny one at that.

It is an insult to the actual victims of violence that people are more outraged by this than they are by a woman being beaten with an iron bar during a robbery.

Yet the headlines tomorrow will be all about a harmless joke told on radio. The discussion at workplaces tomorrow will be about a joke told on radio. Columnists will fill pages, talk-back will be inundated with outrage, outrage so deeply and sincerely held that will be gone by the afternoon. All of it impotent, pointless and counter productive.

And why? Because the joke was told by celebrities.

Be angry if it makes you feel better, but don't kid yourself that your attitude does anything to end violence against women. You're just creating victims where there are none, and leaving the real victims to their own devices.

Not really sure what this is in reference to: have earlier posts have been deleted?

I think Billy is alluding to the culture in which domestic and general violence against women in this country is tolerated....its the old 'was only joking about' argument.

His comments were out of line, and in my opinion, worse than the King Kong 'joke'.

2 women a week of average die as a result of domestic violence; this is not a laughing matter, its a National disgrace

Your last line is spot on, my dad beat my mum to a pulp more than once, it's no laughing matter. But pray tell, what does this have to do with domestic violence?

Also tell me, if it was about fat slobbo (deliberate abuse to antagonise) would you be as upset and if not why not? Men don't deserve to be beaten by a partner, male or female, by a son, by a father, or walking down the street?

This is political correctness gone mad.

And no one has replied to the fact that Neale Daniher said something simular when Robbo went down the slide.

TP, I am truly sorry you (and your mum)had to put up with that, totally unacceptable.

What I am suggesting is that a big part of DV is the culture in which it is allowed to flourish.

Now, if we, as a Nation, did not have an issue with DV, if on average 2 women a week were not being beaten to death, than the Eddie comment (and I might add that Frawley's were far, far worse than Eddies) may have grounds to be seen as a bit of a joke.

We do not live in that Nation; in fact, as a Nation, we have a disgraceful DV record, a bloody disgraceful record.

Is in in that context that the President of the biggest and best Club in the land made the comment.

In short, context is everything, and leaders of the Nation, of which Ed is, have a particular responsibility to lead the way in changing the culture.

FFS, someone said that the Honeymooners 'Straight to the moon...' joke was just a bit of fun, even given the incredible numbers of women in the 50's who passed away 'after falling down the stars officer, it was a tragic accident'.

Now, it would seem that most of here don't see a link. I won't be shamed or bullied (not saying that you are shaming or bullying me, but Leave it is coping a bake from others) in my belief that there is a link, that the fight against DV starts with attitudes.

The straw man argument about 'What if he said it about Slobbo' holds no water for me, as we don't have a violence epidemic against fat drunk football journalists

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Not really sure what this is in reference to: have earlier posts have been deleted?

I think Billy is alluding to the culture in which domestic and general violence against women in this country is tolerated....its the old 'was only joking about' argument.

His comments were out of line, and in my opinion, worse than the King Kong 'joke'.

2 women a week of average die as a result of domestic violence; this is not a laughing matter, its a National disgrace

Your last line is spot on, my dad beat my mum to a pulp more than once, it's no laughing matter. But pray tell, what does this have to do with domestic violence?

Also tell me, if it was about fat slobbo (deliberate abuse to antagonise) would you be as upset and if not why not? Men don't deserve to be beaten by a partner, male or female, by a son, by a father, or walking down the street?

This is political correctness gone mad.

And no one has replied to the fact that Neale Daniher said something simular when Robbo went down the slide.

TP, I am truly sorry you (and your mum)had to put up with that, totally unacceptable.

What I am suggesting is that a big part of DV is the culture in which it is allowed to flourish.

Now, if we, as a Nation, did not have an issue with DV, if on average 2 women a week were not being beaten to death, than the Eddie comment (and I might add that Frawley's were far, far worse than Eddies) may have grounds to be seen as a bit of a joke.

We do not live in that Nation; in fact, as a Nation, we have a disgraceful DV record, a bloody disgraceful record.

Is in in that context that the President of the biggest and best Club in the land made the comment.

In short, context is everything, and leaders of the Nation, of which Ed is, have a particular responsibility to lead the way in changing the culture.

FFS, someone said that the Honeymooners 'Straight to the moon...' joke was just a bit of fun, even given the incredible numbers of women in the 50's who passed away 'after falling down the stars officer, it was a tragic accident'.

Now, it would seem that most of here don't see a link. I won't be shamed or bullied (not saying that you are shaming or bullying me, but Leave it is coping a bake from others) in my belief that there is a link, that the fight against DV starts with attitudes.

The straw man argument about 'What if he said it about Slobbo' holds no water for me, as we don't have a violence epidemic against fat drunk football journalists

Fair enough I'll agree to disagree

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[What'sinaname]

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My main memory of this is that Eddie McGuire dressed himself up in a suit, and was prepared to make himself ridiculous and undignified by sliding on a little blue sled into a pool of ice in front of 50,000 people to raise money for a bloody serious issue. That kind of ice water shocks, and hurts, and it involves a minor kind of personal sacrifice. He did it, stood up, adjusted his tie in a self-mocking manner and walked away - having done a noble thing.

Caroline Wilson is upset because he made a slightly tasteless joke based on his feelings about her journalistic behaviour and denigration of him.

I know whose values seem to me the more real out of this episode. We really have lost our way as a society.

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The straw man argument about 'What if he said it about Slobbo' holds no water for me, as we don't have a violence epidemic against fat drunk football journalists

Yet similar remarks about Wilson's appearance are deemed sexist and misogynist.