#32 Travis Cloke

[piedys]

Vickery is arguably the worst spud of a player, I have ever seen. ever.

You never saw Tony Burgess at CHB?

But he was a beautiful kick; and a great novelist.

[think positive]

This posses me off no end.

I go every week, I'm a legends member, so what I'm supposed to back them in no matter what? I actually think we have a great team, a team that should be top 4, we proved this by being so competitive against Hawks (robbed) Bulldogs (robbed and injured) and cats, won. But for some reason we fall apart against lesser teams, for some reason a champion CHF lost all confidence, and has now chosen to go elsewhere. I have every right to voice my opinion, voice my dissatisfaction when terrible coaching decisions see us lose games we should win. And I have every right to do so without being told I'm not a real Collingwood supporter. As for Always Predicting Doom and Gloom, bullshit, I backed bucks in til about round 6 when the fricken wheels were well and truly buckling. I've been a blind follower right til this season, I wanted so hard for that fairy tale to come true. I still do, a big part of me wants to have to say I'm sorry, I was wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it, but I just don't see it happening. When MM was on the ropes, he recruited Jolly and Ball in a genius master stroke that won us the premiership the very next season. Believe me, nothing would make me happier to be wrong. And I'll be the first to admit it. But you can stick this crap where the sun don't shine. I never play the man. Give me the same respect.

Agreed most of the Buckley support comes from stay at home supporters who take cheap shots at anyone who dare criticise anything.
I mean if you are not critical of 5 years of no progress I think u have lost all credibility.

The blind faith brigade have exposed themselves.
Accordingly Collingwood's attendance figures are falling faster than the Sunday Catholic mass congregations.

We had the list to finish top-4 in 2016, but our coach is so preciously fragile it took one herald-sun story for his head to explode and the whole joint to collapse into a heap.

I'm not having a go at anyone for criticising Bucks, the gameplan, or anything else. All of that is fair game. I've got my criticisms too. For instance, I am skeptical about our apparent plan to recruit a bunch of has beens. I am critical of Buck's seeming unwillingness to embrace the importance of team motivation as part of a coach's arsenal. So, I'm certainly not a blind lollipop brigadier. However, what amazes me are fans who have already written off next season before it's begun. Sure, you're entitled to do that, but seriously I have to wonder what enjoyment you get from following a team you have already decided will be a failure next year. Each to their own. As for me, I expect us to make the 8 and be a chance of a top 4 berth. Unlike you guys I guess, I can't wait for next season to begin Go Pies!

Me either, and especially hanging out for about round 10, by then we should know either way

[CarringbushCigar]

Doubt anyone will be upgrading their memberships to get a better chance of a GF ticket.

Anyone investing money on the pies making the 8 or top 4 this year with Jesse White being upgraded to our number 1 CHF and Sinclair still on the list?

Words are cheap mate.
Harden up and call it for what it is.

Browny is walking, god knows what Goldy, Marley and Blair are doing.

Lucky Sando is coming on board with all that IP from the under 16s.
Gimme a spell.

The fact they even talked to Maric shows they have absolutely no idea and are desperate. Signing Mayne for 4 years on 500k a year just gives the finger to everyone else on the list.

This is looking more and more like a new low than a turnaround.

[RudeBoy]

Agreed most of the Buckley support comes from stay at home supporters who take cheap shots at anyone who dare criticise anything.
I mean if you are not critical of 5 years of no progress I think u have lost all credibility.

The blind faith brigade have exposed themselves.
Accordingly Collingwood's attendance figures are falling faster than the Sunday Catholic mass congregations.

We had the list to finish top-4 in 2016, but our coach is so preciously fragile it took one herald-sun story for his head to explode and the whole joint to collapse into a heap.

I'm not having a go at anyone for criticising Bucks, the gameplan, or anything else. All of that is fair game. I've got my criticisms too. For instance, I am skeptical about our apparent plan to recruit a bunch of has beens. I am critical of Buck's seeming unwillingness to embrace the importance of team motivation as part of a coach's arsenal. So, I'm certainly not a blind lollipop brigadier. However, what amazes me are fans who have already written off next season before it's begun. Sure, you're entitled to do that, but seriously I have to wonder what enjoyment you get from following a team you have already decided will be a failure next year. Each to their own. As for me, I expect us to make the 8 and be a chance of a top 4 berth. Unlike you guys I guess, I can't wait for next season to begin Go Pies!

Me either, and especially hanging out for about round 10, by then we should know either way

Fair enough TP. I realise you are a fair dinkum Pies supporter. I share your frustration with our sub par performances these past few years, but I am genuinely optimistic about the young list Bucks has assembled and I can't wait to see them quickly rise up the ladder next year.

[Piesnchess]

Sometimes I wonder what enjoyment you guys get out of 'barracking' for Collingwood? Grow some cahoonas and get behind the team and show some enthusiasm instead of always predicting doom and gloom.

This posses me off no end.

I go every week, I'm a legends member, so what I'm supposed to back them in no matter what? I actually think we have a great team, a team that should be top 4, we proved this by being so competitive against Hawks (robbed) Bulldogs (robbed and injured) and cats, won. But for some reason we fall apart against lesser teams, for some reason a champion CHF lost all confidence, and has now chosen to go elsewhere. I have every right to voice my opinion, voice my dissatisfaction when terrible coaching decisions see us lose games we should win. And I have every right to do so without being told I'm not a real Collingwood supporter. As for Always Predicting Doom and Gloom, bullshit, I backed bucks in til about round 6 when the fricken wheels were well and truly buckling. I've been a blind follower right til this season, I wanted so hard for that fairy tale to come true. I still do, a big part of me wants to have to say I'm sorry, I was wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it, but I just don't see it happening. When MM was on the ropes, he recruited Jolly and Ball in a genius master stroke that won us the premiership the very next season. Believe me, nothing would make me happier to be wrong. And I'll be the first to admit it. But you can stick this crap where the sun don't shine. I never play the man. Give me the same respect.

Agreed most of the Buckley support comes from stay at home supporters who take cheap shots at anyone who dare criticise anything.
I mean if you are not critical of 5 years of no progress I think u have lost all credibility.

The blind faith brigade have exposed themselves.
Accordingly Collingwood's attendance figures are falling faster than the Sunday Catholic mass congregations.

We had the list to finish top-4 in 2016, but our coach is so preciously fragile it took one herald-sun story for his head to explode and the whole joint to collapse into a heap.

oh and of course, massive and ongoing never ending season injuries to our best players, had nothing whatsoever to do with that now did it, how silly of me to even take that absolute fact into consideration.

[Piesnchess]

Sometimes I wonder what enjoyment you guys get out of 'barracking' for Collingwood? Grow some cahoonas and get behind the team and show some enthusiasm instead of always predicting doom and gloom.

This posses me off no end.

I go every week, I'm a legends member, so what I'm supposed to back them in no matter what? I actually think we have a great team, a team that should be top 4, we proved this by being so competitive against Hawks (robbed) Bulldogs (robbed and injured) and cats, won. But for some reason we fall apart against lesser teams, for some reason a champion CHF lost all confidence, and has now chosen to go elsewhere. I have every right to voice my opinion, voice my dissatisfaction when terrible coaching decisions see us lose games we should win. And I have every right to do so without being told I'm not a real Collingwood supporter. As for Always Predicting Doom and Gloom, bullshit, I backed bucks in til about round 6 when the fricken wheels were well and truly buckling. I've been a blind follower right til this season, I wanted so hard for that fairy tale to come true. I still do, a big part of me wants to have to say I'm sorry, I was wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it, but I just don't see it happening. When MM was on the ropes, he recruited Jolly and Ball in a genius master stroke that won us the premiership the very next season. Believe me, nothing would make me happier to be wrong. And I'll be the first to admit it. But you can stick this crap where the sun don't shine. I never play the man. Give me the same respect.

Agreed most of the Buckley support comes from stay at home supporters who take cheap shots at anyone who dare criticise anything.
I mean if you are not critical of 5 years of no progress I think u have lost all credibility.

The blind faith brigade have exposed themselves.
Accordingly Collingwood's attendance figures are falling faster than the Sunday Catholic mass congregations.

We had the list to finish top-4 in 2016, but our coach is so preciously fragile it took one herald-sun story for his head to explode and the whole joint to collapse into a heap.

oh and of course, massive and ongoing never ending season injuries to our best players, had nothing whatsoever to do with that now did it, how silly of me to even take that absolute fact into consideration.

[HAL]

How often do you go every week he or she'm a legends member so what he or she'm supposed to back them in no matter what?

[eddiesmith]

This posses me off no end.

I go every week, I'm a legends member, so what I'm supposed to back them in no matter what? I actually think we have a great team, a team that should be top 4, we proved this by being so competitive against Hawks (robbed) Bulldogs (robbed and injured) and cats, won. But for some reason we fall apart against lesser teams, for some reason a champion CHF lost all confidence, and has now chosen to go elsewhere. I have every right to voice my opinion, voice my dissatisfaction when terrible coaching decisions see us lose games we should win. And I have every right to do so without being told I'm not a real Collingwood supporter. As for Always Predicting Doom and Gloom, bullshit, I backed bucks in til about round 6 when the fricken wheels were well and truly buckling. I've been a blind follower right til this season, I wanted so hard for that fairy tale to come true. I still do, a big part of me wants to have to say I'm sorry, I was wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it, but I just don't see it happening. When MM was on the ropes, he recruited Jolly and Ball in a genius master stroke that won us the premiership the very next season. Believe me, nothing would make me happier to be wrong. And I'll be the first to admit it. But you can stick this crap where the sun don't shine. I never play the man. Give me the same respect.

Agreed most of the Buckley support comes from stay at home supporters who take cheap shots at anyone who dare criticise anything.
I mean if you are not critical of 5 years of no progress I think u have lost all credibility.

The blind faith brigade have exposed themselves.
Accordingly Collingwood's attendance figures are falling faster than the Sunday Catholic mass congregations.

We had the list to finish top-4 in 2016, but our coach is so preciously fragile it took one herald-sun story for his head to explode and the whole joint to collapse into a heap.

I'm not having a go at anyone for criticising Bucks, the gameplan, or anything else. All of that is fair game. I've got my criticisms too. For instance, I am skeptical about our apparent plan to recruit a bunch of has beens. I am critical of Buck's seeming unwillingness to embrace the importance of team motivation as part of a coach's arsenal. So, I'm certainly not a blind lollipop brigadier. However, what amazes me are fans who have already written off next season before it's begun. Sure, you're entitled to do that, but seriously I have to wonder what enjoyment you get from following a team you have already decided will be a failure next year. Each to their own. As for me, I expect us to make the 8 and be a chance of a top 4 berth. Unlike you guys I guess, I can't wait for next season to begin Go Pies!

Well I was extremely optimistic for this year but it took about 10 minutes into rd1 to destroy most of that optimism...

This year simply confirmed that Buckley cannot coach, there is something fundamentally wrong with the club that won't be fixed over the off season with the same people in charge and yet to our list what improvements are being made? We have got rid of our dual AA CHF and replacing him with what, Chris Mayne? I am assuming he played backline for half the year because if he is the answer, he kicked 1 more goal than Cloke and played every single game!

Hell we are going to pay him more than Cloke and sign him to a 4 year deal?

There is nothing optimistic on the radar, we aren't attracting anyone who will improve the club, instead going for a bunch of old players who aren't guns, we traded in some good players last year and where did that get us? A year of failure and can't even use good draft pick because we traded it way!

I love this club and so did Clokey, yet he is forced out by our coach who has had 5 years and delivered nothing but failure, the optimism dries up pretty quickly

[eddiesmith]

............

[Cam]

You are not forced out by the coach if you don't do what the coach asks. Any employer-employee relationship rests on the same premise. I think its very simplistic to think that a) Bucks doesn't like him so he has to go or b) Travis doesn't like Bucks so he wants to go. It's probably down to one sees change as necessary and the other one sees change as unnecessary.

[AnthonyC]

...yet he is forced out by our coach who has had 5 years and delivered nothing but failure,....

That is exactly what 17 coaches do every year. I couldn't give a large cheese eating rodent's behind about making the finals, and losing the last game.

[mudlark]

Agreed most of the Buckley support comes from stay at home supporters who take cheap shots at anyone who dare criticise anything.
I mean if you are not critical of 5 years of no progress I think u have lost all credibility.

The blind faith brigade have exposed themselves.
Accordingly Collingwood's attendance figures are falling faster than the Sunday Catholic mass congregations.

We had the list to finish top-4 in 2016, but our coach is so preciously fragile it took one herald-sun story for his head to explode and the whole joint to collapse into a heap.

I'm not having a go at anyone for criticising Bucks, the gameplan, or anything else. All of that is fair game. I've got my criticisms too. For instance, I am skeptical about our apparent plan to recruit a bunch of has beens. I am critical of Buck's seeming unwillingness to embrace the importance of team motivation as part of a coach's arsenal. So, I'm certainly not a blind lollipop brigadier. However, what amazes me are fans who have already written off next season before it's begun. Sure, you're entitled to do that, but seriously I have to wonder what enjoyment you get from following a team you have already decided will be a failure next year. Each to their own. As for me, I expect us to make the 8 and be a chance of a top 4 berth. Unlike you guys I guess, I can't wait for next season to begin Go Pies!

Well I was extremely optimistic for this year but it took about 10 minutes into rd1 to destroy most of that optimism...

This year simply confirmed that Buckley cannot coach, there is something fundamentally wrong with the club that won't be fixed over the off season with the same people in charge and yet to our list what improvements are being made? We have got rid of our dual AA CHF and replacing him with what, Chris Mayne? I am assuming he played backline for half the year because if he is the answer, he kicked 1 more goal than Cloke and played every single game!

Hell we are going to pay him more than Cloke and sign him to a 4 year deal?

There is nothing optimistic on the radar, we aren't attracting anyone who will improve the club, instead going for a bunch of old players who aren't guns, we traded in some good players last year and where did that get us? A year of failure and can't even use good draft pick because we traded it way!

I love this club and so did Clokey, yet he is forced out by our coach who has had 5 years and delivered nothing but failure, the optimism dries up pretty quickly

Going by your avatar Eddie ,i would suggest you have had FAR too many hits to the head and you are delusional and all you can think of his BLAMING someone. Woe is me !! WHO shall OI blame?? The coach will do. I f you looked bit deeper into that "First 10 minutes" of that 1st game and cast your punch addled brain back 10 hrs you would have noticed that a certain low life piece of scum,mascarading as a news paper reporter,totally shattered the young team that were besieged by the press,boarding and disembarking the plane that took them to the city that had only 24 hrs previously changed the playing venue.
Those 2 things would quite clearly have dented the confidence of any team and maybe should have if the low life piece of scum had have named the other teams involved in the ALLEGED drug taking over summer, but not long after your"First 10 minutes,our CHAMPION player totally shattered his foot,ending his playing career and not too long after that,one of our more creative and X factor players almost broke his neck while trying his best to take mark and entertain the brain dead Buckley haters.But HEY!!!! That's no excuse is it? Neither were the 13 senior players who we had out of the game for the majority of the season!! NAH!!! let's get a new coach. I hear Mathew Knight may be looking for a gig!! Maybe Bomber could come on over and bring STANK and co with him.That would be fantastic EH???
Cloke can go and I doubt he will or his Dad will take a backward glance and neither will I .See ya Trav.

[mudlark]

DP

[droversdog65]

Same old suspects, same old lines. Never a single word of positivity, a few MM worshipping malcontents, a handful of eternally negative people and a ragtag bunch of groupies.

It's nice to know some things never change

[jackcass]

Same old suspects, same old lines. Never a single word of positivity, a few MM worshipping malcontents, a handful of eternally negative people and a ragtag bunch of groupies.

It's nice to know some things never change

Yep.