Post Match. Pies tie Crows - All comments please

[Donny]

Season over. Goodbye Bucks, Blair, Langdon, Shaza (real pity), Goldsack.

Really, really disappointed with posters on Nicks. No real reason for all the vitriol. We didn't win, we should have, but no reason to be so agressively rude.

Two points:

1. Langdon ? Today: 23 disposals. 95.2 DE% - Our best. Goldy ?? Surely, you jest.

2. You should've seen the posts we had to delete !!

[Doc63]

Its a sad state of affairs when you are happy with a draw after being 50 points up.

Some people on here have become so accustomed to mediocrity that they are happy to accept what happened today.

And they have the nerve to accuse those who are fed up with it as not being Collingwood supporters.

They should hang their heads in shame.

[mudlark]

I need to vent a little. First of all I am going to talk about Blair. I know there are people who say we are deplorable "Supporters" for knocking players ,but Blairs transgressions and incapabilities are stark. Twice in the dying seconds of games against the top side, he gave away frees that cost us the win.He is not clean and generally the ball bounces of some part of his body into the waiting arms of the opposition and away they go. You can refer to step 7 of inxs88's post about about kicking a couple of goals which gets him to step 8 which is a game next week.Then we go in with Phillips and we are 2 men down from the get go.He was insipid today and if you disagree then you will be obviously be happy to draw.
As good as Goldsack played in the first half, similar to the game he played against Richmond and then let Reiwoldt kick 3 in 4 minutes, he did it again today and gave up 2 goals in quick succession at the start of the 3rd qtr when he seemingly had the ball in his control both times. He then went on to spoil a sitter of a mark Langdon was about to take and quickly followed another r Crows goal.And then, as good as Moore played today and yes ha is a kid and yes he was in our best ,he missed 3 sodas of goals.2 set shots from 25mtrs and one on the run from 30 with no pressure.
As good as wells played, quite possibly BOG,he twisted and turned his way into a position he could have done what he wanted to do but took the option of kicking it BACKWARDS ,30 mtrs to a one on one which went pear shaped and Adelaide kicked 2 goals in a minute to round out the qtr.Throw in the Sidebottom to Blair lollypop which resulted inn another goal and you may begin to see my angst. Good teams don't dish up this shit when they are 50 points in front.
How we could lose a game game with 26 seconds to go with ball in hand is totally beyond my comprehension. Yes Adelaide are on top and have smashed many better teams than us but the reality is we have beaten Geelong Sydney Hawthorn and West Coast who were all considered a chance to win the flag.We had a Blair moment which cost us the win against GWS and now Adelaide,same bloke,We should have beaten Richmond easily and had the Bulldogs on toast and threw that one away. We are close but we are poorly coached and we open up like a pussie sore when challenged.The last 3 years have been a demoralising nightmare, for me at least, and as I can read, for a lot of good Collingwood supporters who I have been on this forum for close to 2 decades.
I have supported Buckley over this period but the jury is in and the evidence is overwhelming and he is not up to the task IMHO. Maybe not for some of his methods, but his continual playing footballers who aren't up to it is heart breaking at times.He drops one or 2 and brings in the same ,tired ,talent lacking players.I'm willing to bet that if Blair gets dropped, he will bring in Broomhead and will leave the very untalented Phillips in and we'll once again go into a game with less than a full team in. My Opinion and my rant. I do actually love my team and my club but we have seriously mucked up with the coaching thing and I now feel it is time for a change. This is a club that has never lost a game in its long and rich history after leading by 50 points and although we didn't lose, we did. We lost it about 4 times fought back to having them on toast again and then blew it again. Finis.

[Harrysz]

Getting a 50 points lead was magnificent. That was partly the result of an enormous work rate. Eventually, some of the players ran out of puff and then some of the Crows players who'd hardly had a kick came to life. And some of our guys panicked. And some of our guys made mistakes. It happens. This was first against thirteenth. Some on here say it was all Blair's fault. Everything was Blair's fault including the assassination of JFK.
One thing no one's mentioned is the three goals we got when it looked like we'd be over-run. Blair got one of those goals. No credit given here.

Well, I feel really good after this game. We showed in the first two and a half quarters what we're capable of, and what we're capable of is pretty good. Maynard, Scharenberg, Howe and Langdon will (hopefully) play lots of games together and develop into a fearsome unit. If Wells can stay fit then together with Adams, Sidebottom, Treloar and a guy called Pendlebury we'll have a great midfield. Fasolo, Elliott and Degoey are dangerous forwards and Darcy Moore showed a lot in the first half today.

Of course it would've been great to win, but a draw with the top side was a good effort. Once we develop consistency and beat sides like Carlton, Essendon and Melbourne we'll be right back up there.

[Sammy]

Its a sad state of affairs when you are happy with a draw after being 50 points up.

Some people on here have become so accustomed to mediocrity that they are happy to accept what happened today.

And they have the nerve to accuse those who are fed up with it as not being Collingwood supporters.

They should hang their heads in shame.

Spot on. How could you not absolutely livid about today's result?

[swooper]

Honestly a few people here should take their blinkers off. It was a wonderful game of football played in great spirit. Congratulations to Adelaide for coming back from 50 points behind. We didn't choke but we gave away a few unnecessary goals which was the difference between a win and a draw. Hopefully we learn from this and become a better side.

I don't mind the draw. I don't mind losing the odd game or two. What I do mind is some of the drivel we dished up to the supporters this season. The Port Adelaide game, the St Kilda game, the Carlton game and the Essendon game. That was drivel. Today was a great effort by the team which we almost pulled off. Sadly not to be but we should all be proud of the team.

Well said. Honestly some on here are seriously prone to histrionics . I never thought we'd get that close today . What I saw was a side (undermanned somewhat) trying its guts out . Adelaide were always going to cone back at us...hard . I saw team sitting on top of the ladder playing a team sitting 13th. They tried but failed against probable premiers

[What'sinaname]

Its a sad state of affairs when you are happy with a draw after being 50 points up.

Some people on here have become so accustomed to mediocrity that they are happy to accept what happened today.

And they have the nerve to accuse those who are fed up with it as not being Collingwood supporters.

They should hang their heads in shame.

Yay!

[Adam Treloar 3 Votes]

Two (Wells and WHE) out of our 3 trades last year have cemented their places in our best 22 which is a good result. Another 1 or 2 this trade period along with a top 10 draft pick and we will challenge for finals next year.

[Monco Matt]

I would have taken a draw at the start of the game without a doubt. After we kicked the first 2 goals of the 3rd qtr to lead by 50 points I knew we would piss it away, that it was only a matter of time? Why? Because in the first half the opposition was soft and pathetic and did not pay us any respect, it allowed us to do as we pleased in order to build that lead. As soon as Adelaide woke up and started taking the game on I knew we would cave in. When an opposition comes at us hard we are like a dear stuck in headlights. It has happened many time this season, Bombers, Power, Demons, Giants, maybe one or two others.

The Crows just steamrolled through the middle of the ground unopposed. I feel like we are mostly just our own worst enemy. The errors we make that result directly in opposition goals is quite staggering. Didn't help with Adelaide being so accurate either. Imagine if we could just improve our ball use and restrict the number of fast breaks we allow, how much that would help. Sounds simple doesn't it? But, it just isn't happening.

Never should have lost that game from 50 up. That should just never happen. We have no gears as such, it is either flat out or reverse. We don't know how to play the tempo game. We get 50 up, the Crows start to get going but we still try to play helter skelter. How about spending a couple of minutes holding onto the ball and cooling the tempo down, take the sting out of the opposition who are breathing fire. Oh no, not this lot, still trying to go 100mph. We need to find different levels of play and really smarten up. Learn how to control temp and control the direction of a game, until we do we will continue to allow leads to slip over and over again.

[piedys]

Our kids will LEARN a lot from today, sometimes, you learn more from games you DONT win, the lessons they serve, than actual wins themselves.

So what exactly is the lesson here? It is lost on me, for one...
Please don't try to sugar coat this debacle with cliches - what is there to learn?

This coach cannot learn; he must be removed.

[Johnno75]

We gave up 3.2 in the last 7 minutes of 3rd qtr, yet 2 of those came in red time. They had the momentum for most of that quarter bar the first 5 minutes. A sweeper behind the Adelaide forwards might have saved us those late goals and could even have halted their momentum earlier.

Again I thought it was poor from the box.

[ROB]

So the team that had us 50 points up was the same team that drew with the flag favourites. I posted in the pre game thread that this was going to be close and hopefully not frustrating - well the first half was well beyond anyone's expectations - the second half became frustrating again - but I will take the draw.

Poor, badly coached teams do not get 50 points up against the flag favourites - we all knew they would come back hard and they did. To our credit, we did not give up - that rally to get 3 quick goals in the last 15 minutes was exceptional. Unfortunately, a bit of lack of experience and a lapse of concentration and on field leadership saw the crows get back into it and get the draw. There were a few costly umpiring decisions, or should I emphasis, lack of decisions, that could readily have gave the game to us, but again, that did not go our way. I also thought as good as he was, the most experienced person on the field and our BOG, Wells, made a mistake when he went backwards to a pressure situation causing a contested ball and the rest is history. Don't blame Moore or Fasolo or Blair or anyone else - they all assisted us greatly in getting into a position to win the game in the first place and were instrumental in recent wins also. We have what it takes - we just need to stay settled and get a bit more experience. BTW - the sun will still come up tomorrow - there are many more tragic things occurring every second in this world - this is frustrating but not life and death so stay calm and lets not get personal at each other or the players or coach....the last bloke that was supposed to be perfect and beyond sin was nailed to a cross...

[Piesnchess]

Getting a 50 points lead was magnificent. That was partly the result of an enormous work rate. Eventually, some of the players ran out of puff and then some of the Crows players who'd hardly had a kick came to life. And some of our guys panicked. And some of our guys made mistakes. It happens. This was first against thirteenth. Some on here say it was all Blair's fault. Everything was Blair's fault including the assassination of JFK.
One thing no one's mentioned is the three goals we got when it looked like we'd be over-run. Blair got one of those goals. No credit given here.

Well, I feel really good after this game. We showed in the first two and a half quarters what we're capable of, and what we're capable of is pretty good. Maynard, Scharenberg, Howe and Langdon will (hopefully) play lots of games together and develop into a fearsome unit. If Wells can stay fit then together with Adams, Sidebottom, Treloar and a guy called Pendlebury we'll have a great midfield. Fasolo, Elliott and Degoey are dangerous forwards and Darcy Moore showed a lot in the first half today.

Of course it would've been great to win, but a draw with the top side was a good effort. Once we develop consistency and beat sides like Carlton, Essendon and Melbourne we'll be right back up there.

YOU make FAR too much Commonsense for some around here !

[PyreneesPie]

I also thought that Scharenberg was good for us today.

It was only his tenth AFL game and if his clever handball to himself along the boundary is anything to go by, he sure has some footy smarts, even if he is slow!

[kymbo5@yahoo.com.au]

Its a sad state of affairs when you are happy with a draw after being 50 points up.

Some people on here have become so accustomed to mediocrity that they are happy to accept what happened today.

And they have the nerve to accuse those who are fed up with it as not being Collingwood supporters.

They should hang their heads in shame.

No-one has said they are "happy" that the result was a draw, particularly after being 51 points up.

We are not accustomed to mediocrity. We see things differently that's all. We see the positives and not dwell on the negatives. We don't look to be victims.

Supporters has the word "support' in it. That's what we do. We back Buckley as coach, Ed as President, Pendles as skipper etc. We want them to succeed. We don't enjoy or celebrate when they lose because we have an ulterior agenda.

I will not hang my head in shame for backing the club, its staff and its players in thick and thin. For that, I will hold my head up high and feel proud I am not a fair weather sailor.