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Something about "enough rope" comes to mind.
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If you ever go into the police control room in the Graet Southern stand as I did (trialling a bomb disposal robot) you would see a collage of about 100 photo. Well before the Commonwealth games. They were all of serial pest Peter Hore who disrupted funerals, sporting events etc. he may be dead now, i don;t care. But he has a lifetime ban imposed by the courts from entering any public major event in Melbourne, MCG, Tennis centre etc. The Police told me at the time if he is spotted anywhere on Yarra Park he was to be immediately arrested, be bought up in front of a judge asap, who would jail him for the length of the games for sentence violations.

The death threats he received from the "well known Sydney racing identies" over his disgraceful behaviour at T J Smiths funeral may have come to fruition.

But I am seeing what the British system is doing here. It is not what is being done but who is doing it.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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You can well imagine the yank civil liberty idiots carrying on with NRA chanting in the background. My answer to them would be go and ask the prisoners of Gitmo have they faced a court yet. They haven't even be charged and some have been tortured.
This thug will be out before the afore mentioned people will be.

Any educated member of the media (and that includes the likes of Hinch) are taught where to draw the line. That the likes of Rebel Wilson and Geoffrey Rush have to take these bozos to the cleaners , and god forbid Alan Jones, shows how bad they have become.

They do some media studies crap at university but not the old fashioned cadetship where they learnt respect for court and police procedures. Most of them get a gig because they are a pretty face and ask the people to send in unsubstantiated stuff from members of the public and call it news.

It is actions like this idiot that will lead to some cultures women and children to NOT report domestic violence and inapproprite sexual predatory.
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David wrote:A pretty comprehensive run-down:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/ ... -robinson/
And thus we see, entirely as expected, that the outrage has been engendered by what the author (gently, in my view, since the reality of this sort of far-right, collective, militant stupidity is way worse) refers to as "co-ordinated transnational campaigns disseminating blatant falsehoods about our legal system and gaslighting the public".

When the judgment is available, as it will be, we will review and dissect it here and, of course, no one who needs to grapple with it will be in this thread discussing it - they will have moved on to helping propagate the next misinformation campaign.

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David wrote:A pretty comprehensive run-down:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/ ... -robinson/
Most of that's reasonable, except for points 11 & 13, especially 13 and its not a complaint void of argument. Impartiality of judges has been questioned more than once and cases overturned for the same reason.

They would have been better to put him on remand and have the case heard at another time, then you don't get questions of impropriety.
Contempt of court is a specialist field, a court appointed defense is more likely to deal with general criminal matters.

All they have done is feed more controversy.
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Are you serious or just trying to see if you can score cheap points? Every area of law has its own particular lacks of clarity. Try the law relating to sale and purchase of property for a trivial example (try googling "in personam exception to indefeasibility of title" and get back to me) but people without legal training deal with most of it.

What happened here was not obscure or difficult. Anyone who can stand in front of a court without gibbering could have dealt with this. A barrister with 16 years experience would do it in their sleep.
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The UK law commission advising non specialists is not 'cheap points' , . You getting upset for looking foolish is just you you getting upset for looking foolish :)
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44307037

A short, politically neutral, explanatory piece from the BBC: "Contempt of court - what does it mean?"
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