Manchester City have been banned from participating in the Champions League and Europa League for the next two season (2020/2021 and 2021/2022 seasons) and fined $48,000,000 Australian Dollars, which translates to 30 Million Euros.
They've been fined because of breaches to the Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51510284
Man City charged by the PL
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Man City charged by the PL
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Massive news and has big ramifications for the rest of the season.
Assuming the CL ban is upheld, we give ourselves a massive chance to qualify for the Champions League and consolidate the good work that's been produced by Frank thus far.
Interesting times ahead for City.
- Will the appeal be successful?
- Will Pep stay at the club beyond this season?
- Will there be a mass exodus by the playing squad?
- How do they go about rebuilding their squad successfully despite the ban?
- Will further punishments be awaiting them on the domestic front such as a points deduction?
- Could the City owners consider selling?
Many unanswered questions, but the next few weeks and months are going to be intriguing. A lot of clubs will be cheering this decision.
Assuming the CL ban is upheld, we give ourselves a massive chance to qualify for the Champions League and consolidate the good work that's been produced by Frank thus far.
Interesting times ahead for City.
- Will the appeal be successful?
- Will Pep stay at the club beyond this season?
- Will there be a mass exodus by the playing squad?
- How do they go about rebuilding their squad successfully despite the ban?
- Will further punishments be awaiting them on the domestic front such as a points deduction?
- Could the City owners consider selling?
Many unanswered questions, but the next few weeks and months are going to be intriguing. A lot of clubs will be cheering this decision.
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An interesting aside in the NYT article is "Manchester City, which played in England's second tier as recently as 2002". I'm wondering which clubs have never dropped to the second tier. All of the usual suspects and no one else?
An interesting aside in the NYT article is "Manchester City, which played in England's second tier as recently as 2002". I'm wondering which clubs have never dropped to the second tier. All of the usual suspects and no one else?
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Arsenal have never been relegated from the top flight and were last in the second tier in 1914/1915K wrote:Liverpool fans will no doubt be wanting EPL points penalties to be applied to last season, not this season when it's irrelevant, or next season when it's probably also irrelevant.
An interesting aside in the NYT article is "Manchester City, which played in England's second tier as recently as 2002". I'm wondering which clubs have never dropped to the second tier. All of the usual suspects and no one else?
Manchester City was last in the second tier in 2001/2002.
Chelsea was last in the second tier in 1988/1989.
Tottenham Hotspur was last in the second tier in 1977/1978.
Manchester United was last in the second tier in 1974/1975.
Liverpool was last in the second tier in 1961/1962.
Everton was last in the second tier in 1953/1954.
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Man City officially lodged their appeal to CAS two days ago.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51643289
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51643289
| 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | "Manchester City will discover on Monday whether their appeal against a two-year UEFA ban from European football has been successful, the Court of Arbitration for Sport announced on Friday.
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Without Champions League football, City could miss out on at least 100 million in prize money and broadcast revenue, as well as matchday and other income."
(Reuters)
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Without Champions League football, City could miss out on at least 100 million in prize money and broadcast revenue, as well as matchday and other income."
(Reuters)
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The ban has been overturned. City are free to play Champions League football next season. City's fine has been cut from 30m euros to 10m euros.
Seems as though as long as you cook the books but don't get caught for 5 years, you can get away with anything.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53387306
https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_ ... ternet.pdf
CAS statement:
UEFA statement:
Seems as though as long as you cook the books but don't get caught for 5 years, you can get away with anything.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53387306
https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_ ... ternet.pdf
CAS statement:
https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_ ... cision.pdfMANCHESTER CITY FC DID NOT DISGUISE EQUITY FUNDING AS SPONSORSHIP CONTRIBUTIONS BUT DID FAIL TO COOPERATE WITH THE UEFA AUTHORITIES
CAS DECISION: EXCLUSION FROM PARTICIPATION IN UEFA CLUB COMPETITIONS LIFTED; FINE MAINTAINED BUT REDUCED TO EUR 10 MILLION
UEFA statement:
Manchester City statement:UEFA takes note of the decision taken by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to reduce the sanction imposed on Manchester City FC by UEFA’s independent Club Financial Control Body for alleged breaches of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play regulations.
UEFA notes that the CAS panel found that there was insufficient conclusive evidence to uphold all of the CFCB’s conclusions in this specific case and that many of the alleged breaches were time-barred due to the 5 year time period foreseen in the UEFA regulations.
Over the last few years, Financial Fair Play has played a significant role in protecting clubs and helping them become financially sustainable and UEFA and ECA remain committed to its principles.
UEFA will be making no further comments on the matter.
Whilst Manchester City and its legal advisors are yet to review the full ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), the Club welcomes the implications of today’s ruling as a validation of the Club’s position and the body of evidence that it was able to present. The Club wishes to thank the panel members for their diligence and the due process that they administered.
| 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | Premier League charges Manchester City over alleged financial rule breaches
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/pre ... 5ciec.html
‘Aguero moment’ forever tainted if Manchester City charges proved
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/pre ... 5ciec.html
‘Aguero moment’ forever tainted if Manchester City charges proved
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City were under investigation by the PL for 4 years.
I think this might be a watershed moment for the PL. If City are not punished for these alleged breaches, I can see the Super League having a resurgence.
I think this might be a watershed moment for the PL. If City are not punished for these alleged breaches, I can see the Super League having a resurgence.
| 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | Facing 115 charges, Manchester City are suing the Premier League. Here’s why
'Within a 165-page legal document, City claim they are being unlawfully targeted by rivals to stifle their success. The club argues the league’s democratic system of 14 clubs being able to implement rule change gives the majority unacceptable levels of control.
City are seeking “damages for the losses which it has incurred as a result of the unlawfulness of the FMV [fair market value] rules”, the claim states.
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The rules were “deliberately intended to stifle commercial freedoms of particular clubs in particular circumstances, and thus to restrict economic competition”, the claim, first reported by Britain’s The Times newspaper, says.
“There is no rational or logical connection between a club’s financial non-sustainability and its receipt of revenues from entities linked to ownerships.”
In his summary of the case, Daniel Gore, a senior associate at law firm Withers, says City are “challenging the contract which exists between the clubs themselves and the league”.
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“It is hard to see how effective governance could take place without a threshold such as this, so Man City’s challenge could plunge the Premier League’s governance structure into chaos and make it harder for any decision to take place,” explains Gore. “This move might be seen by some sceptics as Man City trying to manoeuvre the narrative and legal arguments in its favour, ahead of its own defence of the 115 charges.”
Dan Chapman, a sports lawyer and partner at Norwich’s Leathes Prior, says his “immediate instinct”, however, is that an unlawful verdict in a fortnight should “not be of major significance to the 115 charges”.
“If City thought that rules were unlawful to which they were subject over many, many years and were now, only in 2024, raising that, I do not see that would likely be a terribly attractive argument for any regulatory commission hearing the charges based on the laws as they then were,” he adds.
“I can understand if they establish the APT rules introduced in 2021 are unlawful that it would mean anyone charged post-2021 would have something to say about it, but I do not immediately see the direct link between this and the bulk of the 115 charges.
“That said, of course, symbolically, I suppose, if City were to win this case, it certainly gives them a significant moral high ground or PR footing to argue that a lot of the charges that they face, under the historical regulations, would not necessarily be brought under whatever amended regulations emerge from the outcome of these proceedings.”'
(Telegraph, London)
'Within a 165-page legal document, City claim they are being unlawfully targeted by rivals to stifle their success. The club argues the league’s democratic system of 14 clubs being able to implement rule change gives the majority unacceptable levels of control.
City are seeking “damages for the losses which it has incurred as a result of the unlawfulness of the FMV [fair market value] rules”, the claim states.
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The rules were “deliberately intended to stifle commercial freedoms of particular clubs in particular circumstances, and thus to restrict economic competition”, the claim, first reported by Britain’s The Times newspaper, says.
“There is no rational or logical connection between a club’s financial non-sustainability and its receipt of revenues from entities linked to ownerships.”
In his summary of the case, Daniel Gore, a senior associate at law firm Withers, says City are “challenging the contract which exists between the clubs themselves and the league”.
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“It is hard to see how effective governance could take place without a threshold such as this, so Man City’s challenge could plunge the Premier League’s governance structure into chaos and make it harder for any decision to take place,” explains Gore. “This move might be seen by some sceptics as Man City trying to manoeuvre the narrative and legal arguments in its favour, ahead of its own defence of the 115 charges.”
Dan Chapman, a sports lawyer and partner at Norwich’s Leathes Prior, says his “immediate instinct”, however, is that an unlawful verdict in a fortnight should “not be of major significance to the 115 charges”.
“If City thought that rules were unlawful to which they were subject over many, many years and were now, only in 2024, raising that, I do not see that would likely be a terribly attractive argument for any regulatory commission hearing the charges based on the laws as they then were,” he adds.
“I can understand if they establish the APT rules introduced in 2021 are unlawful that it would mean anyone charged post-2021 would have something to say about it, but I do not immediately see the direct link between this and the bulk of the 115 charges.
“That said, of course, symbolically, I suppose, if City were to win this case, it certainly gives them a significant moral high ground or PR footing to argue that a lot of the charges that they face, under the historical regulations, would not necessarily be brought under whatever amended regulations emerge from the outcome of these proceedings.”'
(Telegraph, London)
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This will make or break the Premier League.
It's unbelievable people have been tolerating City's dominance for as long as they have with this hanging over them.
Imagine if this happened in the AFL?
It's unbelievable people have been tolerating City's dominance for as long as they have with this hanging over them.
Imagine if this happened in the AFL?
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