The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

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I don't see a problem with just giving out voting member names. They are not asking for addresses, dates of birth, tax file numbers, credit card details, etc, etc, etc.
Otherwise just get voting members to sign another petition, quoting their social club number, like Hayley originally planned.
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Why should they get access to every person who's a voting member? Why not just give it to the club to verify?
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Personally I don't trust this current board to do the right thing & verify the petition. I believe that their offer of a third party be involved with no ties to either side is a good one. So I don't understand why this is stalling and legal action is being taken. It's getting very messy.
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maurs64 wrote:Personally I don't trust this current board to do the right thing & verify the petition. I believe that their offer of a third party be involved with no ties to either side is a good one. So I don't understand why this is stalling and legal action is being taken. It's getting very messy.
It's healthy to be sceptical of the current board, but the other lot aren't doing much to earn anyone's trust either.

Francis Galbally came out yesterday in response to the board's statement saying the following:
He said he wanted a list of all voting members of the club so he could write to them, expressing concerns about governance of the club and “seeking a change to the existing board”.

“I just want voting members (names),”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/col ... 589f5.html

I thought you wanted the register because you're trying to see whether you've fulfilled the 5% threshold to trigger an EGM. What he says is contradictory to these original objectives.

Meanwhile, this has become a legal issue anyway. Is the club legally obligated to hand over the register to requesting members under the Corporations Act, or is there an issue around privacy that precludes them from doing so. It will be interesting to see how the law resolves these competing issues?
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The organisers of the petition were amateurish during the process.

Rather than vetting signatories and asking them about their eligibility and whether they had evidence to demonstrate this, they were accepting signatures from anyone.

They claim they have 2,000 signatures but how many are legitimate?

If they were confident of getting the required 650 (5%) signatures to trigger an EGM, would they be so insistent on asking for the register of members?
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Maybe the club’s registering deceased people, pets, and fictitious characters to fluff the member numbers?
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Jezza wrote:The organisers of the petition were amateurish during the process.

Rather than vetting signatories and asking them about their eligibility and whether they had evidence to demonstrate this, they were accepting signatures from anyone.

They claim they have 2,000 signatures but how many are legitimate?

If they were confident of getting the required 650 (5%) signatures to trigger an EGM, would they be so insistent on asking for the register of members?
You can’t blame them. Their hearts were in the right place and they got the desired result which was a meeting with Mark Korda and a promise to bring forward the AGM to December and open up three board positions for re-election. The problem with this sort of thing is that some people never know when to stop and when it gains momentum emotion takes over and often bad things happen that are worse than the initial problem. I still remember the 1980’s when the Collingwood Football Club almost became extinct.
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that email that mark Korda sent was a load of tripe. I think the members who are eligible to vote should pick who is on the board .
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That is typically how directors are elected, if the seats are contested. What's Korda saying?
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"there had been no elections held at the club for 20 years"

How the hell did this happen
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he is saying he has been bullied by people and also they brought they agm forward to vote. He wasnt voted in by the members so its not a democratic vote
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Nick - Pie Man wrote:"there had been no elections held at the club for 20 years"

How the hell did this happen
Because no-one bothered to stand for election against incumbent Board members. You can't have a Board election if there is no one contesting a position on the Board.
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Nobody stood for election, or nobody was able to stand? Making it next to impossible to nominate is one of the best ways to get the result you want
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Nick - Pie Man wrote:Nobody stood for election, or nobody was able to stand? Making it next to impossible to nominate is one of the best ways to get the result you want
Nope - people have been perfectly able to nominate all along.

Though if memory serves, at least one person who publicly speculated that they might stand received a call from certain people, and after that they felt they'd "been heard" and no longer needed to stand.
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I hate to say it, but letting 'the people' vote is fraught with danger.
Look at what happened in America.
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