The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

scoobydoo · Post by **scoobydoo** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:43 pm

WhyPhilWhy? wrote:
Nick - Pie Man wrote:Nobody stood for election, or nobody was able to stand? Making it next to impossible to nominate is one of the best ways to get the result you want
Nope - people have been perfectly able to nominate all along.

Though if memory serves, at least one person who publicly speculated that they might stand received a call from certain people, and after that they felt they'd "been heard" and no longer needed to stand.

Sounds like that guy who threatened an EGM,got the signatures & then disappeared. Not much has changed has it

Post by **RudeBoy** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:51 pm

scoobydoo wrote:
WhyPhilWhy? wrote:
Nick - Pie Man wrote:Nobody stood for election, or nobody was able to stand? Making it next to impossible to nominate is one of the best ways to get the result you want
Nope - people have been perfectly able to nominate all along.

Though if memory serves, at least one person who publicly speculated that they might stand received a call from certain people, and after that they felt they'd "been heard" and no longer needed to stand.
Sounds like that guy who threatened an EGM,got the signatures & then disappeared. Not much has changed has it

Quite clearly incumbency carries with it enormous power and advantages over any prospective challenger. In the past, it's probably true that some have been 'persuaded' not to contest an election. However, ultimately it's up to members whether they decide to stand or not. It's one thing to want to stand, but it's another thing to really, really, really want to stand, knowing that the incumbents will most likely conduct a smear campaign against a challenger's character. Having the money and resources to run a media campaign is probably also a constraint stopping many from standing.

Post by **WhyPhilWhy?** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:23 pm

Having the money and resources to be an effective board member once elected is also a serious constraint.

CarringbushCigar · Post by **CarringbushCigar** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:25 pm

Well if a Grass Roots campaign emerges I'd love to get involved.
We're Collingwood supporters - laughing at smears is in our DNA.
Put me in charge of punishing infiltrators.

Meeting time Rude Boy ?

Woods · Post by **Woods** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:56 pm

I'll vote for the Joffa ticket.

Nick - Pie Man · Post by **Nick - Pie Man** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:46 pm

Hey whatever happened to old mate Joffa? IS it true he's retired off to Fiji or something?

Post by **WhyPhilWhy?** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:56 pm

Nick - Pie Man wrote:Hey whatever happened to old mate Joffa? IS it true he's retired off to Fiji or something?

If you seriously don't know, PM me.

We don't need to open that particular line of conversation here.

WPW for the mods team

Post by **RudeBoy** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:35 pm

CarringbushCigar wrote:Well if a Grass Roots campaign emerges I'd love to get involved.
We're Collingwood supporters - laughing at smears is in our DNA.
Put me in charge of punishing infiltrators.

Meeting time Rude Boy ?

Luv your work CC.

Post by **David** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:24 pm

uuuuu..... The LoneSTAR wrote:I hate to say it, but letting 'the people' vote is fraught with danger.
Look at what happened in America.

If that's the lesson you took from that, you got the wrong end of the stick. The problem isn't democracy; the problem is when you don't actually have much of a democracy to begin with and only out-of-touch multimillionaires (or, in Collingwood FC's case, just regular corporate bigwigs) can run in the first place.

Woods · Post by **Woods** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:01 pm

A Dane Swan ticket would get a few votes too.
Videoed board meetings would make a hilarious YouTube channel.

Post by **Jezza** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:38 pm

MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:You can’t blame them. Their hearts were in the right place and they got the desired result which was a meeting with Mark Korda and a promise to bring forward the AGM to December and open up three board positions for re-election. The problem with this sort of thing is that some people never know when to stop and when it gains momentum emotion takes over and often bad things happen that are worse than the initial problem. I still remember the 1980’s when the Collingwood Football Club almost became extinct.

I agree David Hatley had good intentions and wanted what was only best for the club, but I'm more cynical of these faceless people who are keen to continue this charade without Hatley who's now withdrawn from the process.

Woods · Post by **Woods** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:10 am

Was Hartley a stooge?

Post by **WhyPhilWhy?** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:16 pm

Woods wrote:Was Hartley a stooge?

No. But maybe he didn't quite understand the magnitude of what he decided to bite off.

K · Post by K » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:18 pm

^ I don't think it's that. I think the Board were easily able to manipulate his emotions. Just make him feel listened to, important, etc.... They've done it before.

scoobydoo · Post by **scoobydoo** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:21 pm

David wrote:
uuuuu..... The LoneSTAR wrote:I hate to say it, but letting 'the people' vote is fraught with danger.
Look at what happened in America.
If that's the lesson you took from that, you got the wrong end of the stick. The problem isn't democracy; the problem is when you don't actually have much of a democracy to begin with and only out-of-touch multimillionaires (or, in Collingwood FC's case, just regular corporate bigwigs) can run in the first place.

So you personally know Jeff Browne do you?
If not calling him an out of touch millionaire is very naive.
Why don’t you run for the board?

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The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again