Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[think positive]

ohhhh get the party started, and pass the popcorn!

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... eakingnews


"Under the new rules, from September 13:
Fully vaccinated households in the local government areas of concern can gather outside for recreation one hour within 5km of home between 5am and 9pm. This is in addition to the hour of exercise. Only the adults in the household need to be vaccinated.
Groups of five fully vaccinated people who live outside of the local government areas of concern can gather outdoors within their local government areas or 5km from home."

happy for them to be the guinea pigs!

Victoria
21,618

New South Wales
20,466


yes Vic still has way more deaths, mostly form nursing homes, thankfully nursing homes all over seem to have got their inmates vacinated

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/cov ... ntial-care

[roar]

Dan admitted two things

1. He is still aiming for zero
2. He won't stop lockdowns even if vaccination reaches 80%. Brett wants 90%+

JFC, that will have us locked up well into next year.

[Pies4shaw]

Deaths in Australia since the start of our last summer - 81:

- ACT 0.
- NT 0.
- SA 0.
- Tas 0.
- Victoria 0.
- WA 0.
- Qld 1.
- NSW 80.

[What'sinaname]

Dan admitted two things

1. He is still aiming for zero
2. He won't stop lockdowns even if vaccination reaches 80%. Brett wants 90%+

JFC, that will have us locked up well into next year.

Even vaccination passports are off the table when he says that he wont have vaccinated people attend the Grand Final as they can catch and spread to unvaccinated. So, while we have unvaccinated people, we're in lockdown.

Remember 80% vaccination of 16+ still leaves 36% of Victorians unvaccinated. Brett wants us to reach 90%+ of the entire population like we do for all other vaccine preventable diseases.

[Pies4shaw]

What the CHO actually said was to the effect that Australia has a good history of compliance with vaccination programs, so that we should aim to be reaching 90% vaccination coverage or higher. That makes good sense. He certainly wasn't raising the bar in relation to targets - what he was actually saying, as I understood it, is that it shouldn't be that hard to get to 80%. It is correct to aim for very high vaccination compliance - whether or not that is required to avoid future lockdowns.

[think positive]

you should always aim higher than your expectations

[roar]

Couldn't care less about what they are aiming for in terms of vaccinated population, most of us just want to know when lockdown is going to finish.

There will be a large amount of deniers/anti-vaxxers that do not want the vaccine so if everybody who wants to get it, has got it, the numbers don't matter, do they?

[What'sinaname]

Couldn't care less about what they are aiming for in terms of vaccinated population, most of us just want to know when lockdown is going to finish.

There will be a large amount of deniers/anti-vaxxers that do not want the vaccine so if everybody who wants to get it, has got it, the numbers don't matter, do they?

Under 16s cant be vaccinated. That's about 20% of the Vic population.

[eddiesmith]

Dan blames people taking too long to get tested for the outbreak growing, then Sutton says 75% of transmission occurs before symptoms even occur.

So listening to the health advice this outbreak would be spreading wildly and still plenty of people not in isolation either way!

But never let facts get in the way of a good Dan rant. You know the pressure is getting to him when he starts blaming the public.

Was also funny that Merlino announced the plan to get Yr 12s vaccinated yesterday, yet the government hasn't actually got it worked out yet and will be next week at the earliest before they have any actual announcements on it. So what was the point if they haven't even worked it out or done any actual work on it?

And the Twitter trolls complain about the Feds making empty promises and announcements with no substance...

[stui magpie]

Couldn't care less about what they are aiming for in terms of vaccinated population, most of us just want to know when lockdown is going to finish.

There will be a large amount of deniers/anti-vaxxers that do not want the vaccine so if everybody who wants to get it, has got it, the numbers don't matter, do they?

Under 16s cant be vaccinated. That's about 20% of the Vic population.

Not yet but they're working on it. The USA is vaccinating everyone over 12.

Dan will be dancing with the Devil if he keeps Victoria locked down going for zero, there's an election next year. He may be in front in the polls at the moment (largely because the opposition has been less than useless) but resentment is growing.

The latest screw up is telling Yr 12 students that they'll need to be vaccinated to sit their VCE then making no pathway for them to get vaccinated as a priority.

Whatever the future offers, it's not going to look like anything anyone imagined in 2019.

[Pies4shaw]

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-08- ... /100411220

The University of Sydney has used complex modelling to forecast the trajectory of the latest outbreak, factoring in the high infectiousness of the Delta variant, current lockdown settings and the progress of the vaccine rollout.

Using data available up until August 25, it found that if restrictions were fully lifted when 80 per cent of adults were vaccinated, infections could surge to 40,000 cases a day.

The modelling showed that in the following month, half a million people could become infected with the virus, even with continued testing, tracing, isolation, quarantine and international travel restrictions.

[What'sinaname]

and while Victorians struggle to get a vaccination appointment online, Dan's daughter and friends magically log in Wednesday night and get appointments for Sunday.

When I looked on Day 1, there was nothing before the 7 September.

[Pies4shaw]

From The Age's blog:

Voters back Labor premiers over Berejiklian and PM on outbreak response

Labor premiers hold a clear lead over Prime Minister Scott Morrison in support from voters on the response to recent outbreaks, highlighting the power of the states in a national cabinet debate on lockdowns.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is backed by 52 per cent of voters nationwide and Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk is backed by 51 per cent when Australians are asked about the way major leaders have responded to outbreaks in recent weeks.

That compares to only 26 per cent of respondents saying NSW Liberal Premier Gladys Berejiklian responded well or very well to the outbreaks, while 38 per cent said the same for Mr Morrison.

The findings are part of a new survey that reveals strong concerns nationwide with Ms Berejiklian’s handling of the NSW outbreak, with 39 per cent saying her restrictions were too light and 40 per cent saying the recent lockdown measures are enough but should have come sooner.

[roar]

With no end to lockdowns in sight, and Dan continuing to blame everybody but himself, I am not so sure those figures are going to remain positive for the ALP. Or perhaps that's just wishful thinking on my behalf.

[Pies4shaw]

^ Well, it may be - because other recent stories have indicated that the Victorian ALP's support has increased, recently.

In Victoria, 79 new local cases and no new cases acquired overseas. The Government says that "Of the 79 locally-acquired cases, 53 are linked to known outbreaks and 26 are under investigation. Further case information will be provided this morning."

Update: 63 now linked, so 16 mystery cases as of the 11.15 am presser.