Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[think positive]

what would you have them do? how are they to blame for this lockdown?

yes last year was on them and choosing to believe that non military proffessional firms would do the right hing with hotel lockdown. what did they do wrong this time? genuine question

[What'sinaname]

what would you have them do? how are they to blame for this lockdown?

yes last year was on them and choosing to believe that non military proffessional firms would do the right hing with hotel lockdown. what did they do wrong this time? genuine question

They have politicised it and don't pretend otherwise. Lockdowns have become a huge dick measuring contest between the ALP and LNP. Spin it all you like, this is all about trying to say, "I was right, and you are wrong".

[roar]

It's been over 18 months and there still aren't proper quarantine facilities (federal and state).

Gladys chose to let the Delta strain get away.

Dan didn't close the border in time to stop the Delta virus getting in to Victoria.

The lockdowns could be managed to allow "safe" functions to still occur yet the inconsistencies are everywhere.

We keep hearing that the lockdowns are there to protect out health services from being overrun so why hasn't a seperate covid hospital been set up?

[Pies4shaw]

From NSW health's twitter:

NSW recorded 1,290 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.

[David]

[Pies4shaw]

what would you have them do? how are they to blame for this lockdown?

yes last year was on them and choosing to believe that non military proffessional firms would do the right hing with hotel lockdown. what did they do wrong this time? genuine question

They have politicised it and don't pretend otherwise. Lockdowns have become a huge dick measuring contest between the ALP and LNP. Spin it all you like, this is all about trying to say, "I was right, and you are wrong".

I agree that NSW and the Commonwealth politicised it all by pretending that NSW was something other than lucky last year. The "Gold Standard", indeed. Putting that drivel aside, though, the data plainly demonstrates that WA, SA, Qld, the NT and Victoria have all been correct and NSW mucked up very badly. There's no longer any question about that.

[think positive]

[Jezza]

“Victoria can’t get on top of it”

“Victoria can’t get their contact tracing right”

Why? Because victorIANS are not doing the Right thing! Go to the shops and watch who scans, who walks past, who refuses to wear a mask properly (yes when I’m on my walk and no one is near me I lower mine too, but not inside anywhere except home)

It’s not all on Dan and his mates, make sure your mates are doing the right thing!

I’m so over the attitudes right now, I almost walked off on my Bff Yesterday because of her parroting the antivax bullshit! Whinge whinge whinge, I want to be free, I want my rights, I want to choose, $$%^%%$ me me me me me! I’d left at half time for a walk, yet watching the 4th quarter massacre was more fun! At least it had a couple of punch ups!

So many selfish self centred arsehole who won’t do a thing to help themselves let alone anyone else

I think blaming regular people is just a tool used by the state government to deflect from its own failings. Humans are nomadic species who long for interaction and belonging.

We've had 211 days of lockdown, and now it's been extended with no current end date. Anyone who thinks Victoria is a successful story over the last 18 months is a moron.

Even if we miraculously got the number down to zero against Delta, how long until we lockdown again? There's no reward for the hard work to sacrifice our lives to get the number down.

People are fed up beyond belief. Small businesses have been destroyed while public servants get a pay rise, children are being deprived of a proper education and mental health issues are growing especially among young people.

I can't even look at Andrews on my TV screen without wanting to throw my remote at it.

[Jezza]

The real reason why McGowan shuts down whenever there's a hint of Covid in his state.

These people are cowards who hide behind "saving lives" to protect their backsides.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... knees.html

[stui magpie]

^

Yep, it's been on it's knees for a while, it was reported on by the ABC last year.

That's also why he's likely to renege on any plan to reduce restrictions once people are vaccinated, their health system couldn't cope with a bad flu season let alone Covid.

[Dave The Man]

Experts are saying all Vaccines should be sent to Sydney and Melbourne

[Dave The Man]

^

Yep, it's been on it's knees for a while, it was reported on by the ABC last year.

That's also why he's likely to renege on any plan to reduce restrictions once people are vaccinated, their health system couldn't cope with a bad flu season let alone Covid.

WA don't want to be part of Australia

[eddiesmith]

Do you want to know why compliance is dropping off so dramatically? Because everyone is damn sick of it, 200+ days of lockdown and still the state has no plan other than lockdown and hope.

The fact is in areas of the state with zero covid cases they are sick of having to lockdown and follow bullshit restrictions because a minority of people in a small geographical area of Victoria keep damn up.

Why are other states doing so much better? Because they haven't had to experience gross incompetence of their government, they haven't had to deal with being locked down with zero cases for over 200 days!

If I lived in QLD I'd have never experienced a lockdown, because they don't lockdown the entire state, they lockdown the areas that actually have cases, that actually have risks.

If Dan just locked up the damn western and northern suburbs, the rest of the state would be free and there would be far more compliance of reasonable restrictions. But no, he can't even keep the virus out of regional Victoria.

7 lockdowns and zero cases for most of regional Victoria...damn government incompetence.

[stui magpie]

what would you have them do? how are they to blame for this lockdown?

yes last year was on them and choosing to believe that non military proffessional firms would do the right hing with hotel lockdown. what did they do wrong this time? genuine question

They have politicised it and don't pretend otherwise. Lockdowns have become a huge dick measuring contest between the ALP and LNP. Spin it all you like, this is all about trying to say, "I was right, and you are wrong".

I agree that NSW and the Commonwealth politicised it all by pretending that NSW was something other than lucky last year. The "Gold Standard", indeed. Putting that drivel aside, though, the data plainly demonstrates that WA, SA, Qld, the NT and Victoria have all been correct and NSW mucked up very badly. There's no longer any question about that.

It depends on what data you view, and your obvious dislike of the Lib nat governments clearly clouds your judgement here.

NSW has mucked it up this year, but to call their efforts prior "lucky" is just drivel. Once is lucky, doing it multiple times, including with outbreaks seeded from Victoria, isn't luck.

NSW was clearly gold standard in dealing with Alpha, with QLD a close second. Those 2 states did the majority of the hotel quarantine for the country, had very limited leakage, and dealt with what there was efficiently using TTI as the primary measure and, in the case of QLD limited localised lockdowns.

Victoria in 2020 had abysmal hotel quarantine and contact tracing which lead to the large outbreak, over 800 deaths and extended lockdowns.

Both have been vastly improved but as demonstrated now, 26 days into the latest 7 day circuit breaker stage 4 lockdown, the TTI response is struggling.

Dan was the one who politicised it, using his media team to help spin his abject failure to deal with the outbreak in 2020 which necessitated the hardest lockdown seen anywhere other than China to that point, into a public policy win.

"Look at me, I've shown everyone how to beat Covid"

Can we not revise history?

We are currently in statewide stage 4 lockdown in Victoria, and need to be, because the Andrews government has demonstrated that it is incapable of dealing with it any other way. To try to spin that by saying he's done a good job is just ridiculous.

[Dave The Man]

Very Good Message:

https://twitter.com/western_health/stat ... 8876021760