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Pies4shaw wrote:^ That's an intellectually dishonest comparison. I know you didn't write it but you don't have to disseminate piffle without reflection.

Victoria's last "donut day" on 4 August 2021 was in the middle of the present outbreak, on a day when there happened to be no reported cases, sandwiched between days of multiple cases on either side.

The current Victorian incursion actually began on 12 July. In the first 27 days of the present Victorian outbreak, there were 270 community cases.
So you know more than the Victorian government? Because they say this is a new outbreak with a mystery source…
No, I just try to read the information carefully and analyse the data accurately. Thus, the Victorian Government's coronavirus update for 4 August 2021 states (amongst other things) that:
Victoria was notified of no new cases of COVID-19 yesterday.

This is Victoria's first day of zero locally acquired cases since the current Delta outbreak began on 12 July.

There are 99 active cases in Victoria - 95 locally acquired and four overseas acquired cases.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus ... ugust-2021
Then the new outbreak started, hence the 25th August update, the last time they updated totals it stated:
As a broad summary of cases so far in these outbreaks:

361 total cases are currently linked to initial outbreaks in the western suburbs, and their downstream outbreaks including the Glenroy community and MyCentre Broadmeadows
In addition, 66 total cases are currently linked to the Shepparton community (including the Royal Melbourne Hospital)
36 total cases are currently linked to the St Kilda East/Fitzroy St area
33 total cases are currently linked to the CBD/Carlton/North Melbourne area
84 total cases are currently linked to an emerging cluster of cases in Altona North, Newport and surrounds
46 total cases are under investigation
Which doesn’t include any from the previous outbreak…
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What "new outbreak"? The 4 August 2021 update that I linked above records that there were no reported cases but then refers to the first reported case in what became the Al Taqwa College outbreak. The virus did not disappear from Victoria on 3 August and then spontaneously materialize itself in the middle of the Western Suburbs the next day.
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Well if you believe the Victorian government it did, because they haven’t linked the first case in most clusters here to anything. So the first Al Taqwa case is still a mystery case and the beginning of the new outbreak.

But it’s also in the governments best interests to treat them as seperate outbreaks given we came out of lockdown despite mystery cases and Dan and Brett celebrated the defeating of Delta a second time…
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So, here's the run (from Covid Live):

01 Sep 21 116
31 Aug 21 75
30 Aug 21 70
29 Aug 21 91
28 Aug 21 63
27 Aug 21 78
26 Aug 21 79
25 Aug 21 41
24 Aug 21 46
23 Aug 21 71
22 Aug 21 65
21 Aug 21 61
20 Aug 21 55
19 Aug 21 57
18 Aug 21 24
17 Aug 21 24
16 Aug 21 22
15 Aug 21 25
14 Aug 21 21
13 Aug 21 15
12 Aug 21 27
11 Aug 21 16
10 Aug 21 20
09 Aug 21 11
08 Aug 21 11
07 Aug 21 29
06 Aug 21 6
05 Aug 21 7
04 Aug 21 0
03 Aug 21 4
02 Aug 21 2
01 Aug 21 4
31 Jul 21 2
30 Jul 21 3
29 Jul 21 7
28 Jul 21 8
27 Jul 21 10
26 Jul 21 11
25 Jul 21 10
24 Jul 21 12
23 Jul 21 14
22 Jul 21 26
21 Jul 21 22
20 Jul 21 14
19 Jul 21 12
18 Jul 21 16
17 Jul 21 20
16 Jul 21 9
15 Jul 21 10
14 Jul 21 1
13 Jul 21 3
12 Jul 21 0
11 Jul 21 0
10 Jul 21 0
09 Jul 21 0
08 Jul 21 0
07 Jul 21 0
06 Jul 21 0
05 Jul 21 0
04 Jul 21 0
03 Jul 21 0
02 Jul 21 0
01 Jul 21 0
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^ So Dan lied when he said we'd defeated Delta?
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170 unconfirmed cases today
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In Victoria, 176 new local cases and no new cases acquired overseas. The Government says that "Of the 176 locally acquired cases, 83 have been linked to known cases and outbreaks. Further case information will be provided this morning."
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stui magpie wrote:So, for the avoidance of doubt, Andrews has given up on the Covid Zero approach and joined NSW in contain and vaccinate.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-01/ ... /100423686
Now I'm conflicted between wanting to berate Gladys or kiss her. She may be the cause of this latest mess but without her pushing ahead with opening I do not believe Dan would be taking this option because if they open before we do, it will seriously hurt him, politically.
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And the best way to manage a pandemic is politically?
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Pies4shaw wrote:And the best way to manage a pandemic is politically?
It may not be the best way, but it is the way it's being done right across the board
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Pies4shaw wrote:And the best way to manage a pandemic is politically?
It may not be the best way, but it is the way it's being done right across the board
I wonder how bad this could end up if we have too few people with natural immunity and too many with artificial immunity.

Once people are double vaxxed, they should get together and get infected.
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From NSW Health twitter:
NSW recorded 1,288 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.
The total number of cases in NSW since the beginning of the pandemic is 29,202.

Sadly, NSW Health has been notified of the deaths of seven people who had COVID-19.
There have been 23,586 locally acquired cases reported since 16 June 2021, when the first case in this outbreak was reported.
There are currently 957 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 160 people in intensive care, 64 of whom require ventilation.
Just to put that last point in context, NSW Health reports elsewhere that it has a total of 592 adult ICU beds in the State, so that's over 25% of all ICU beds already taken up with COVID cases (no doubt they're working to increase capacity): https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectiou ... -care.aspx
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^^ As to that particularlv deranged suggestion, Kerry Chant just said the following in NSW's presser this morning:
Dr Chant says "clearly the advice is that within six weeks of an infection you're unlikely to be re-infected with Delta".

She says however, that "natural immunity to Delta or any virus is less effective than a vaccine in terms of long-term immunity".
This isn't one of those diseases like, say, chicken pox that you get once (in theory). It's a kind of very virulent "cold" virus - people routinely get up to half a dozen colds a year (it varies with their work and their exposure), despite having normal immune systems. Putting vaccinated people together to spread COVID is possibly one of the more insane suggestions I've read on the pages of Nick's over the last decade.

Turning back to the data from my previous post, this has all the hallmarks of a public health disaster, at least in NSW and Victoria. If Victoria follows the NSW pattern, we can expect to see in excess of 1,000 cases a day, here, within a month.

To get a handle on the public health system load, it is worth observing that NSW presently has over 20,000 active cases. At the height of the "old variant" outbreak in Victoria last year, it never reached 8,000 active cases. Last year, with lower total active case load, Victoria never had to manage 700 COVID hospitalisations on the one day or even 50 people in ICU. Victoria never had more than 32 people on a ventilator at one time last year. Even with the relatively low number of active cases at the moment, a third of Victoria's hospitalised cases are in ICU and 20% of the hospitalised cases (that is, of the total number) are on ventilation, already.

This has serious potential to get appallingly bad, extremely quickly.
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