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Relevant bits of current news.

The Age editorial today.
Premier, your state needs hope. No more lectures about compliance. No more measures that have limited if any evidence to back them just in case they might assist around the edges. We need a plan for the 30 per cent or more who are fully vaccinated to have more freedoms at some point, a plan to re-open schools and businesses once vaccination targets are reached.

The state can no longer live like this.
Pretty fair piece I thought.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... f3-PoRlDZc

Victoria has halved the amount of time between shots of AstraZeneca to 6 weeks, same as that for the Pfizer in an attempt to speed up people getting fully vaccinated.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-02/ ... /100427364


NSW passes the 7 million vaccines and the first state in Australia to get 70% of eligible people at least 1 shot.
NSW is the first state in Australia to achieve a 70 per cent single dose vaccination rate after a rapid uptake in vaccines during the 10 weeks of lockdown.

Some of NSW's progress can be attributed to the boost in Pfizer doses that went to Western Sydney via Poland, but a large part is the increased take-up of AstraZeneca.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-02/ ... /100427638
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i notice on the vaccination map the poorer suburbs, yes my side of town and also down near springvale etc have the lowest rates. its not a massive defference but its there. i gotta say its my less educated friends that are against it! the smart ones are already jabbed! i cant believe the shit people sprout, i got fed up the other day and told a couple who were interrupting my walk, stop listening to doctor google and go ask your real doctor!
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think positive wrote:i notice on the vaccination map the poorer suburbs, yes my side of town and also down near springvale etc have the lowest rates. its not a massive defference but its there. i gotta say its my less educated friends that are against it! the smart ones are already jabbed! i cant believe the shit people sprout, i got fed up the other day and told a couple who were interrupting my walk, stop listening to doctor google and go ask your real doctor!
in the Poorer Errors you also have lot of Immigrants and not all of them Understand English Well
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If people genuinely don't want to get vaccinated, that's their choice.

If we get Covid passports that means they can't go to events, pubs or restaurants, that's a consequence of that choice. So is what happens if they catch Covid.

I just want to get as many vaccinated as soon as we can so we can get back to something resembling normal. Maybe next anti lockdown protest, we get a whole bunch of snipers with dart guns loaded with AstraZeneca and vaccinate the lot of them before they know what's happened.
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stui magpie wrote:I just want to get as many vaccinated as soon as we can so we can get back to something resembling normal. Maybe next anti lockdown protest, we get a whole bunch of snipers with dart guns loaded with AstraZeneca and vaccinate the lot of them before they know what's happened.
They be counted as Vaccinated so they probably won't and won't hold the Country Back to normal with them being part of the Vaccinated %
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QLD outbreak hinges on the results of a family who snuck back into QLD from Melbourne.

Health officials only became aware when two of the children gave the family up when they started telling fellow pupils at the Australian International Islamic College in Carrara about the family of five’s trip to Melbourne.
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School has been closed, people forced into isolation, the family of 5 have been forced into Hotel Quarantine and after initially refusing to do a Covid test have decided to comply.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/que ... 8dca41a761
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Pies4shaw wrote:^^ As to that particularlv deranged suggestion, Kerry Chant just said the following in NSW's presser this morning:
Dr Chant says "clearly the advice is that within six weeks of an infection you're unlikely to be re-infected with Delta".

She says however, that "natural immunity to Delta or any virus is less effective than a vaccine in terms of long-term immunity".
This isn't one of those diseases like, say, chicken pox that you get once (in theory). It's a kind of very virulent "cold" virus - people routinely get up to half a dozen colds a year (it varies with their work and their exposure), despite having normal immune systems. Putting vaccinated people together to spread COVID is possibly one of the more insane suggestions I've read on the pages of Nick's over the last decade.
If I said to you that we should have let people get infected and build a natural immunity that would be more effective against Delta than any vaccine you would say the same thing as you said above. But guess what...natural immunity from previous infections have been proven more effective than the vaccine against Delta. If all the kids who were barely affected by the 2020 variant were infected, then a lot of them wouldn't be hospitalised today.

Now, maybe natural immunity from Delta might be more effective against Mu or the next mutation of the virus.
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stui magpie wrote:If people genuinely don't want to get vaccinated, that's their choice.

If we get Covid passports that means they can't go to events, pubs or restaurants, that's a consequence of that choice. So is what happens if they catch Covid.

I just want to get as many vaccinated as soon as we can so we can get back to something resembling normal. Maybe next anti lockdown protest, we get a whole bunch of snipers with dart guns loaded with AstraZeneca and vaccinate the lot of them before they know what's happened.
yes i had this discussion a couple of days back "i should have a choice' me 'you do' 'but then then the coffee shop we have supported all lockdown wont let me in " me 'thats your choice!"

and yes no jab but you still expect medicare to cover you?
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What'sinaname wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:^^ As to that particularlv deranged suggestion, Kerry Chant just said the following in NSW's presser this morning:
Dr Chant says "clearly the advice is that within six weeks of an infection you're unlikely to be re-infected with Delta".

She says however, that "natural immunity to Delta or any virus is less effective than a vaccine in terms of long-term immunity".
This isn't one of those diseases like, say, chicken pox that you get once (in theory). It's a kind of very virulent "cold" virus - people routinely get up to half a dozen colds a year (it varies with their work and their exposure), despite having normal immune systems. Putting vaccinated people together to spread COVID is possibly one of the more insane suggestions I've read on the pages of Nick's over the last decade.
If I said to you that we should have let people get infected and build a natural immunity that would be more effective against Delta than any vaccine you would say the same thing as you said above. But guess what...natural immunity from previous infections have been proven more effective than the vaccine against Delta. If all the kids who were barely affected by the 2020 variant were infected, then a lot of them wouldn't be hospitalised today.

Now, maybe natural immunity from Delta might be more effective against Mu or the next mutation of the virus.
And maybe your speculation is dangerous nonsense.
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In Victoria:
Reported yesterday: 208 new local cases and 1 case acquired overseas (currently in HQ).
- 33,511 vaccines administered
- 48,572 test results received
- Sadly, 1 person with COVID-19 has died

Of the 208 locally acquired cases, 96 have been linked to known cases and outbreaks. Further information will be provided this morning.
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Pies4shaw wrote:And the best way to manage a pandemic is politically?
Absolutely not, but that's what we have.
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We've been in stage 4 lockdown since daily cases were in single figures, so how do they get to 200+
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Because Dan and his merry band of sheep went all out attack on Sydney saying they needed to lockdown harder and faster because Victoria is the gold standard of lockdowns to be followed.

So just like every other time Dans opened his big mouth in the last 18 months, Victorians were doomed.
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