Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Pies4shaw]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/ ... /100380908

The real-world impact of the shifting of Pfizer vaccines to NSW, particularly given the much faster speed with which people can be double vaccinated, is significant.

Based on these numbers, for example, it appears Victoria may have missed out on up to 343,000 Pfizer jabs between June and September, Queensland 100,000 jabs and Western Australia 114,000 jabs.

But more troubling is the apparent extra weighting of future Pfizer shot allocations to NSW for the remainder of the year.

The Federal Department of Health "Horizon Allocation" document, updated in late July, forecasts the distribution of various vaccines until the end of December.

It shows Victoria, Queensland and Western Australia continuing to receive much less than their population's share of vaccines.

For example, Victoria would normally get about 82 per cent of NSW's allocation.

But it is forecast to get between just 66 per cent and 69 per cent.

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The two states most adversely affected by the shift in Pfizer shots to NSW are Victoria and Queensland.

In a statement to 7.30, Victorian Health Minister Martin Foley said it was "disappointing that the Commonwealth appears to be pursuing a national plan to vaccinate NSW at the expense of all other Australians".

7.30 understands Queensland Health raised its concerns about the allocations with the federal government in mid-August.

[What'sinaname]

^ I fully endorse that approach as NSW was for a long time the only State willing to take on a vaccination strategy. The country needed / needs an exemplar to show that vaccination and living with COVID can work.

All Premiers had their chance. Only Gladys went with vaccinate. Dan came around to this strategy 2 weeks ago.

[Pies4shaw]

^ I'll be sure to let my two adult children know that you "fully endorse" them waiting on their Pfizer shots. Your endorsement will, no doubt, persuade them that it was a good thing to direct their vaccine disproportionately to the eastern suburbs of Sydney.

[stui magpie]

Or they could just go get the AZ shot.

[Pies4shaw]

^ Which begs the question, as I'm sure you fully understand, as to why their Pfizer shots were sent to NSW.

[What'sinaname]

These vaccines have a shelf life and why send them to States who aren't interested in using them?

[Pies4shaw]

^I'm sure you know that's a daft thing to say.

In Victoria:

Reported yesterday: 246 new local cases and 0 new cases acquired overseas.
- 32,300 vaccine doses were administered
- 43,858 test results were received

Of the 246 local cases, 90 are linked to known cases and outbreaks and the remainder under investigation. Further case information will be provided this morning.

[stui magpie]

^ Which begs the question, as I'm sure you fully understand, as to why their Pfizer shots were sent to NSW.

Their shots? Seriously? Could you come across a little more entitled?

There is Pfizer and AZ available in Vic at both state hubs and GP's, if they want to get vaccinated make an appointment to do it. They may have to wait a bit longer if they want Pfizer, so they'll have a choice to make.

[Pies4shaw]

Meanwhile, the UK's "vaccinated population" experience continues to be a cautionary tale. In the last month, new cases per day on the rolling 7-day average have increased by about 9,500 per day (from about 26,000 to about 35,500) and deaths have increased by about 50% per day (from 77 to 113) over the same period.

[Pies4shaw]

^ Which begs the question, as I'm sure you fully understand, as to why their Pfizer shots were sent to NSW.

Their shots? Seriously? Could you come across a little more entitled?

There is Pfizer and AZ available in Vic at both state hubs and GP's, if they want to get vaccinated make an appointment to do it. They may have to wait a bit longer if they want Pfizer, so they'll have a choice to make.

Yeah, nah. I'm very, very angry with people who have been trying to score political points by talking about vaccination rates. You know full well that the vaccines weren't even available to people in their age-group until relatively recently - and the advice continues to be that they should get Pfizer. Why should they take the risk with a product that isn't recommended for them merely because the one that is recommended for their demographic has been pork-barreled into a different jurisdiction? No reason at all.

I've had it with people politicizing the numbers. And I've had it with the temerity of people telling me what my family should and shouldn't do. We just follow the health advice, as best we can.

[roar]

^ Which begs the question, as I'm sure you fully understand, as to why their Pfizer shots were sent to NSW.

Their shots? Seriously? Could you come across a little more entitled?

Seriously? Victorians (and other states) have a right to be shitty with NSW getting more than their fair share at the expense of our constituents.

[What'sinaname]

^ Which begs the question, as I'm sure you fully understand, as to why their Pfizer shots were sent to NSW.

Their shots? Seriously? Could you come across a little more entitled?

Seriously? Victorians (and other states) have a right to be shitty with NSW getting more than their fair share at the expense of our constituents.

Really? Compare the pair.

Victoria - get vaccinated so that we can move 10km from home, visit a skate park and still live under curfew.

NSW - get vaccinated so a new vaccine passport can be trialled, and people will be released from lockdown.

Which of these would you favour if you were looking to model a way out of COVID?

[Pies4shaw]

The Victorian Premier, courtesy of The Age's blog:

Speaking at Tuesday’s daily press conference, Mr Andrews said the national cabinet’s agreement was “not a national plan to vaccinate Sydney”.

“I signed up to a national plan to vaccinate the country.

“Some don’t like to see this as a race. But a race, it surely is. What I didn’t know was that Premier Berejiklian is in a sprint, while the rest of us are supposed to do some sort of egg and spoon thing.”

Mr Andrews urged federal Health Minister Greg Hunt to front up and explain how he will fix the discrepancy, which he described as a “secret” and “under the table” arrangement.

“Only the Commonwealth government can fix it.”

From NSW Health's twitter:

NSW recorded 1,220 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.

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Sadly, NSW Health has been notified of the deaths of eight people who had COVID-19.

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There have been 139 COVID-19 related deaths in NSW since 16 June 2021, and 195 in total since the start of the pandemic.

There have been 30,456 locally acquired cases reported since 16 June 2021, when the first case in this outbreak was reported.

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There are currently 1151 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 192 people in intensive care, 75 of whom require ventilation.

Just a caution on the numbers - NSW today reported its lowest number of tests since 10 August. The positive test rate, which tells you how much COVID is being detected, is up by just under a third on yesterday's figure (1.21%, compared with 0.94%). That means that the numbers of cases are actually increasing - they're just not detecting as much of it.

In that context, the positive test rate in Victoria is under half the positive test rate in NSW, so either all the wrong people are getting tested in Victoria or there's much less virus about in Victoria than NSW. It's probably the latter, since the spread still seems to be geographically confined here.

[roar]

Their shots? Seriously? Could you come across a little more entitled?

Seriously? Victorians (and other states) have a right to be shitty with NSW getting more than their fair share at the expense of our constituents.

Really? Compare the pair.

Victoria - get vaccinated so that we can move 10km from home, visit a skate park and still live under curfew.

NSW - get vaccinated so a new vaccine passport can be trialled, and people will be released from lockdown.

Which of these would you favour if you were looking to model a way out of COVID?

That's all political bs that shouldn't have a bearing on the allocation of vaccines.

[stui magpie]

^ Which begs the question, as I'm sure you fully understand, as to why their Pfizer shots were sent to NSW.

Their shots? Seriously? Could you come across a little more entitled?

There is Pfizer and AZ available in Vic at both state hubs and GP's, if they want to get vaccinated make an appointment to do it. They may have to wait a bit longer if they want Pfizer, so they'll have a choice to make.

Yeah, nah. I'm very, very angry with people who have been trying to score political points by talking about vaccination rates. You know full well that the vaccines weren't even available to people in their age-group until relatively recently - and the advice continues to be that they should get Pfizer. Why should they take the risk with a product that isn't recommended for them merely because the one that is recommended for their demographic has been pork-barreled into a different jurisdiction? No reason at all.

I've had it with people politicizing the numbers. And I've had it with the temerity of people telling me what my family should and shouldn't do. We just follow the health advice, as best we can.

people on both sides are politicising numbers to their own benefit and take any opportunity to slag off the others. Fully agree that the vaccines have only been available for young people for a short time, but they still have a choice. Just because NSW got some extra through the GP network shouldn't be concerning, as the article you quoted said, that will be balanced out in Vic starting next week with new GP hubs opening up here.

As far as health advice goes, unless there are specific medical reasons why AZ is not suitable, anyone over 16 can get the AZ but it's recommended they have the discussion with a GP.

Dave had it, I had it, TP had it. My daughters partner is a Cop and was told she had to get vaccinated so she could be stationed at Hotel Quarantine. She wasn't given a choice, she was given the AZ. She's 30.

Anyone who ever popped a pill in a club has taken a bigger risk with their life than the AZ shot poses.