The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

[Charlie Oneeye]

Assuming we don't recruit axe murderers:


Which is the best board candidate ?


The best candidate

or

The best Collingwood candidate

______________


Which is the better coach ?

The best candidate

or

The best Collingwood candidate

[RudeBoy]

No it isn't

Yes it is.

[WhyPhilWhy?]

Let's not turn this into something that requires Being Hit On The Head lessons - thx, the mods team

[Pies4shaw]

^ Casual vacancies are expressly subject to the election qualification requirements (see clause 27(b) of the Articles). That, of course, is why she was described as an "ex-officio" Board member (that is, never an actual Board member at all).

^^ Yep, 27b as I've highlighted elsewhere. Any person so appointed must satisfy the qualification for Board membership as required by Article 25

Article 25b The Club in general meeting may pass an ordinary resolution waiving compliance with paragraph (a) [24 month requirement]

It's all there in B&W.

I'm now not even sure which side of the discussion you're supporting given you're now quoting the same stuff I am.

The Club can only waive a requirement in General Meeting. The Board can't. Consequently, unless and until the requirement was waived by a General Meeting of members, this person could not be - and consequently was never - a Board member. Nor did the Board have the power to waive the eligibility requirements for appointment even to appoint a person to fill a casual vacancy.

This was an egregious and embarrassing failure of governance. It may be that there have been other such egregious failures of governance in the past - which seems to be one of the points you were making. That doesn't make doing it again (if that is what has occurred) any less pathetic or reprehensible.

I do not much care what persons are appointed to the Board. I do prefer that, generally speaking, the appointments be conducted lawfully and in such a manner that the Club is not made to look like a laughing stock.

[Macattacks]

An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition, not just a series of contradictions

I'd settle for a free exchange of ideas instead of the few here that seem intent on conflict at all costs, not very side by sidey.
Has it always been this way or has Covid exacerbated the situation?

[jackcass]

The Club can only waive a requirement in General Meeting. The Board can't. Consequently, unless and until the requirement was waived by a General Meeting of members, this person could not be - and consequently was never - a Board member. Nor did the Board have the power to waive the eligibility requirements for appointment even to appoint a person to fill a casual vacancy.

Have I suggested anything different?

This was an egregious and embarrassing failure of governance. It may be that there have been other such egregious failures of governance in the past - which seems to be one of the points you were making. That doesn't make doing it again (if that is what has occurred) any less pathetic or reprehensible.

I do not much care what persons are appointed to the Board. I do prefer that, generally speaking, the appointments be conducted lawfully and in such a manner that the Club is not made to look like a laughing stock.

Nah. Vacancy occurred, candidate was identified, position to be ratified at the AGM. Perfectly acceptable. Next to none of this angst would have arisen if not for a picture of her wearing doggies attire. Molehill ---> Mountain.

I'll leave this there as we're clearly never going to agree.

[Pies4shaw]

It wasn't "perfectly acceptable". It was contrary to the Articles of Association. They announced that this woman had been appointed to the Board, got caught out, walked it back because they were forced to do so and then decided to try to paper over things by referring to her as an "ex-officio member of the Board". There is, of course, no such beast.

The thing that rings massive alarm bells for me is that they didn't have better legal advice. Who allowed such a sloppy error to be made? It makes you wonder what else they've done poorly (in a compliance sense) over the journey.

[robevpau1]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... 3f4ab13d36

'Collingwood is facing a total spill of its board at December’s annual general meeting unless a weekend peace deal can be reached with would-be president Jeff Browne.

Former Pies solicitor Francis Galbally told News Corp he would be in a position to lodge papers for a full-blown club election early next week.

The move would give about 12,000 Collingwood members the right to vote on all seven board positions at the December 16 AGM.

“Despite all our attempts to reach a peaceful resolution we have been unsuccessful in negotiating a transition to an appropriate new leadership and governance team at Collingwood,” Galbally said.'

[jackcass]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/collingwood-board-fight-jeff-browne-edges-closer-to-taking-over-as-magpies-president-from-mark-korda/news-story/cdc5e7e503a69f71eda57b3f4ab13d36

'Collingwood is facing a total spill of its board at December’s annual general meeting unless a weekend peace deal can be reached with would-be president Jeff Browne.

Former Pies solicitor Francis Galbally told News Corp he would be in a position to lodge papers for a full-blown club election early next week.

The move would give about 12,000 Collingwood members the right to vote on all seven board positions at the December 16 AGM.

“Despite all our attempts to reach a peaceful resolution we have been unsuccessful in negotiating a transition to an appropriate new leadership and governance team at Collingwood,” Galbally said.'

Is Galbally acting for Browne now?

[Magpietothemax]

delete

[Jezza]

Delete

[Jezza]

Is Galbally acting for Browne now?

No one knows for sure. We do know Galbally has endorsed Browne for the presidency.

It would be wise for Browne to distance himself from Galbally if they are connected.

This does appear to be pushed by only Francis Galbally as far as I'm aware. His brother David was quoted as saying he supported Korda's appointment in April so maybe the family itself is divided over the issue.

[Magpie Russ]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/collingwood-board-fight-jeff-browne-edges-closer-to-taking-over-as-magpies-president-from-mark-korda/news-story/cdc5e7e503a69f71eda57b3f4ab13d36

'Collingwood is facing a total spill of its board at December’s annual general meeting unless a weekend peace deal can be reached with would-be president Jeff Browne.

Former Pies solicitor Francis Galbally told News Corp he would be in a position to lodge papers for a full-blown club election early next week.

The move would give about 12,000 Collingwood members the right to vote on all seven board positions at the December 16 AGM.

“Despite all our attempts to reach a peaceful resolution we have been unsuccessful in negotiating a transition to an appropriate new leadership and governance team at Collingwood,” Galbally said.'

Murphy was said in the Age that the strong complaint he and the board had heard is that the members "have not felt like they have had a voice for too long."

“They need to have a voice in December, so we are not going to appoint anyone to the board just because they believe they should be there without it going to a members’ vote and once they have voted and got the board they want, the president will emerge from that" this flies in the face of the - "peaceful resolution that we have been unsuccessful in negotiating a transition to an appropriate new leadership and governance team at Collingwood”.

I assume the "we" Galbally mentions is the Jeff Browne ' new leadership and governance team'. A 'peaceful transition' rather than a vote.

[Jezza]

Received an email from the club regarding the electoral process:

We will formally close our year with the 2021 annual general meeting (AGM) on 16 December. With the need for an audit of our financial accounts to be completed and approved first, the board brought forward the AGM to the earliest possible date.

The election concerns a majority of our board - four of seven directors. Directors Jodie Sizer, Paul Licuria and I are not up for election. Jodie and Paul were elected for three years in 2021. I was elected for three years in 2020.

The other four positions on the board will be voted on by members. Voting members are those who hold a Club 5, Legends, or Season Ticket membership with Social Club access, and are entitled to access all 11 of the Club’s home games during the home and away season.

With this background, and in the interests of complete transparency, I have set out a timetable concerning the AGM to assist member participation in the election.

We have engaged CorpVote to conduct the election process, an eminent voting and election provider renowned for governance, audit and compliance expertise.

There are two steps we need to complete before the AGM; the nomination step where members nominate for election to the board, and then the members voting step. Both are governed by our constitution.

On October 15 the Club will place advertisements and invite eligible members to nominate for election to the board. The nomination period will close on November 4.

If there are more nominations of eligible candidates than vacancies and a contested election is required, voting shall commence on November 19 and close on December 10, six days before the AGM.

The returning officer will advise the Collingwood board of the results of the election and at the AGM the newly elected board will be formally confirmed.

KEY DATES
Nominations open October 15
Nominations close November 4
Voting by members opens November 19
Voting by members closes December 10
AGM December 16

As per the constitution, members who held any of the following packages for the 2021 season are eligible to vote:
- Club 5 members;
- Legends members;
- Season Ticket members with Social Club access.

We will post an election timetable on collingwoodfc.com.au shortly so that you have a reference to assist with navigating the election process.

All the best,
Mark Korda

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

I'm assuming the above email was sent to all 82,000 members who have email addresses. Many of those members don't even know they don't have voting rights given that only 13,000 members are entitled to vote at the AGM. There are so many things to fix up on the admin side to align with the overhaul of the football department. The starting point is a new board, but that should only be the beginning of reforms badly needed at the club. They need to attract more ordinary members who have full voting rights at the club, so it's essential for the club to offer more attractive packages that confer voting rights. Then the club needs to encourage members to utilize the facilities of the social club, not just on game day. For too long Holden Centre has been the domain of the corporates with the members discouraged from going there. Victoria Park has been wasted as a venue for members as well. For a club as rich as Collingwood why hasn't any money been spent on Victoria park? If Collingwood wants to learn how to make the experience of the social club facilities better for members they should visit some of the rugby clubs north of the border, or just cross the fence and check out how the Melbourne Storm treat their members.