Sky News Bashing NDIS

[think positive]

thanks mate, much appreciated.

the things i havent heard before can be quite funny, farts for a start, never realised how loud they are!! well mine are!!!so much for sneaky ones in the corner!!!

i love just walking and listening, everywhere, from the beach, to the bush to snooping in shops! gees people talk loud about things they shouldnt!!

its also changed the lives of my nearest and dearest, and my older sister, who for what ever reason is deafer than me, just got hers last week! shes 61!! shes as gobsmacked as me! and my younger sister, who lives with her, is so much happier!!!!!

cheers, life is good!!

[doriswilgus]

It’s a whole new world for you TP.I’m so glad you’re able to enjoy it all now.

[stui magpie]

Great stuff Jo, as they said to you, don't feel guilty, you've paid enough tax if you're eligible for it, take it as something you deserve.

Your comment about Farts reminds me of an old joke.

A woman goes to see her GP and says, "Doc, I have a problem, I'm farting all the time. The good thing is they're silent and no smell, but it's constant. I've done 3 in here with you just now"

The Doctor hands over some paper and says, "Here's a script for some nose drops and a referall to an audiologist. First we'll fix your sense of smell and your hearing, then work on the farts"

[watt price tully]

Ultimately we all need to be paying more tax one way or another.

Has Labor ever met a tax it doesn't like? Does anything ever cost less under Labor?

The highest taxing governments in Australia have been the Liberals.

However, the more important point has been the ideological obsession with private based services by the Libs. This is simply unaffordable and a simple transfer of public money into private hands. Fund NGO’s and Government run services to employ staff. This will assist in reducing the spiralling costs.

[roar]

The alp bashing doesn't have to be based on anything factual, though, wpt. You just need to keep repeating the "slogans" as often as you can.

[stui magpie]

Ultimately we all need to be paying more tax one way or another.

Has Labor ever met a tax it doesn't like? Does anything ever cost less under Labor?

The highest taxing governments in Australia have been the Liberals.

Yes,......but.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-13/ ... /100686194

lots of factors go into that. when we have a resources boom for example, the government of the day makes more money

[watt price tully]

Has Labor ever met a tax it doesn't like? Does anything ever cost less under Labor?

The highest taxing governments in Australia have been the Liberals.

Yes,......but.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-13/ ... /100686194

lots of factors go into that. when we have a resources boom for example, the government of the day makes more money

The main point is it’s sheer bullshit to think that the Libs are lower taxing which is the sort of disinformation that they peddle backed up by the foreign owned press otherwise known as the Murdoch press and perpetuated by the unthinking.

[think positive]

Great stuff Jo, as they said to you, don't feel guilty, you've paid enough tax if you're eligible for it, take it as something you deserve.

Your comment about Farts reminds me of an old joke.

A woman goes to see her GP and says, "Doc, I have a problem, I'm farting all the time. The good thing is they're silent and no smell, but it's constant. I've done 3 in here with you just now"

The Doctor hands over some paper and says, "Here's a script for some nose drops and a referall to an audiologist. First we'll fix your sense of smell and your hearing, then work on the farts"

heheheh!!!!!

[What'sinaname]

my hearing aides are fully funded, im about 70 percent deaf, and apparently should have had them since childhood.

i wont go into the bullying and shit ive had to take due to this disability, but its been a lifelong thing. getting them has changed my life dramatically, i didnt even realise how many down days i was having. im naturally an always look on the bright side personality.

i felt guilty when NDIS was suggested, said i would not qualify, and ill just take the cheapies thanks. She said no, its not means tested, i was shocked. i still didnt want extras aside from the aides. i was so embarrassed when i met with NDIS but they were amazing. i was again told i should have had them supplied free since childhood. dont feel guilty, you pay tax, you more than qualify. i still feel guilty but man, id be lost without them now! i was given a plan for 2 years, it includes a few extras, and the specialist ordered me a tv thing and a rogering device, plus i wanted a spare charger, which i offered to pay for. ndis also want me to see an occupational therapist, but i dont feel the need to, and if i lose that part of the package next time so be it. im a bit shocked that so much is allocated to a service that pays the bills, its madness, surely it would be cheaper for the NDIS to employ someone directly.

can i afford them? yes i can, but putting aside $7k for something that might not work would have been a no no for me, im not wired that way. for my kids yes, for me, no. i still feel guilty, however God knows we have paid more than enough tax over the years, money that has supported others, while i have struggled for 59 years with a disability i had no idea was so bad. that might be hard to understand but this is my normal. im not used to hearing gravel crunch under my feet, or the rain sounding like its about to smash the roof in, so many things i had no idea made noises. And i have paid retail for 3 different kinds, all just made things louder, no matter how many different set ups were programmed by the specialists, the technology now is amazing!

i have said many times people ripping the system make me so mad. they still do. I will use of my package what i need, no more. and im so very grateful for it. means testing is an interesting concept, but it can be about more than money. cheers

Glad it worked, but your story is a cautionary tale of why the NDIS is a clustercluck and the medical profession can not be trusted with Government money.

Their approach is, well, if the Government's playing, then, have everything, even stuff you don't need. Again, over servicing as the expense of the taxpayer.

[What'sinaname]

Great stuff Jo, as they said to you, don't feel guilty, you've paid enough tax if you're eligible for it, take it as something you deserve.

I guess you're pro Gina Reinhart and Andrew Forrest accessing NDIS then?

[think positive]

my hearing aides are fully funded, im about 70 percent deaf, and apparently should have had them since childhood.

i wont go into the bullying and shit ive had to take due to this disability, but its been a lifelong thing. getting them has changed my life dramatically, i didnt even realise how many down days i was having. im naturally an always look on the bright side personality.

i felt guilty when NDIS was suggested, said i would not qualify, and ill just take the cheapies thanks. She said no, its not means tested, i was shocked. i still didnt want extras aside from the aides. i was so embarrassed when i met with NDIS but they were amazing. i was again told i should have had them supplied free since childhood. dont feel guilty, you pay tax, you more than qualify. i still feel guilty but man, id be lost without them now! i was given a plan for 2 years, it includes a few extras, and the specialist ordered me a tv thing and a rogering device, plus i wanted a spare charger, which i offered to pay for. ndis also want me to see an occupational therapist, but i dont feel the need to, and if i lose that part of the package next time so be it. im a bit shocked that so much is allocated to a service that pays the bills, its madness, surely it would be cheaper for the NDIS to employ someone directly.

can i afford them? yes i can, but putting aside $7k for something that might not work would have been a no no for me, im not wired that way. for my kids yes, for me, no. i still feel guilty, however God knows we have paid more than enough tax over the years, money that has supported others, while i have struggled for 59 years with a disability i had no idea was so bad. that might be hard to understand but this is my normal. im not used to hearing gravel crunch under my feet, or the rain sounding like its about to smash the roof in, so many things i had no idea made noises. And i have paid retail for 3 different kinds, all just made things louder, no matter how many different set ups were programmed by the specialists, the technology now is amazing!

i have said many times people ripping the system make me so mad. they still do. I will use of my package what i need, no more. and im so very grateful for it. means testing is an interesting concept, but it can be about more than money. cheers

Glad it worked, but your story is a cautionary tale of why the NDIS is a clustercluck and the medical profession can not be trusted with Government money.

Their approach is, well, if the Government's playing, then, have everything, even stuff you don't need. Again, over servicing as the expense of the taxpayer.

Well it almost makes up for the thousands out of pocket we were for hubbies experimental cancer treatment, which wasn’t covered, but saved his life so he could continue to work ridiculous hours and pay huge tax bills that benefit people who need it and also people who choose not to work as hard as him, Cheers

[think positive]

Great stuff Jo, as they said to you, don't feel guilty, you've paid enough tax if you're eligible for it, take it as something you deserve.

I guess you're pro Gina Reinhart and Andrew Forrest accessing NDIS then?

ifonky we were in that tax bracket!

[stui magpie]

The highest taxing governments in Australia have been the Liberals.

Yes,......but.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-13/ ... /100686194

lots of factors go into that. when we have a resources boom for example, the government of the day makes more money

The main point is it’s sheer bullshit to think that the Libs are lower taxing which is the sort of disinformation that they peddle backed up by the foreign owned press otherwise known as the Murdoch press and perpetuated by the unthinking.

No, it's bullshit to be an idealistic fool.

The Libs have raised more money from Taxation than Labor because the Economy works better when they're in charge. Apart from the GST, which all goes to the states anyway, the Libs are more likely to lower and abolish taxes than Labor is. Frame the question differently, you get the right answer.

Anyway, I no longer give a fllying F, I'm on Centrelink till I can get access to my super. Sold the shares to get some cash flow, next up is to sell the Redline

[watt price tully]

Yes hook line and sinker: that blow up doll of Terry McCrann must be due for a replacement by now.

[What'sinaname]

Well it almost makes up for the thousands out of pocket we were for hubbies experimental cancer treatment, which wasn’t covered, but saved his life so he could continue to work ridiculous hours and pay huge tax bills that benefit people who need it and also people who choose not to work as hard as him, Cheers

As I said, I am really happy that the hearing aid worked for you, and equally happy that the experimental cancer drugs have worked for hubby.

Your post even acknowledged that the NDIS isn't run like you would a household budget. It's bloated, inefficient and perpetuates over servicing.

Rather than finding additional funding for it, perhaps effort should be put into making it efficient and value for money. Rather than money going needlessly to occupational therapists and providing expensive gear that you don't actually need. And I bet all this stuff is top dollar as they know the NDIS will just sign a blank cheque to pay whatever.