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The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
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eddiesmith wrote:The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
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Opposition to Trump isn't just about his managerial style, you know. There's a little thing called policy (plus ideology, plus political instincts) that's at least somewhat important in how kindly we look on someone.

Otherwise, those of us on the left who aren't Labor supporters are more than happy to call out Andrews for his failings, of which there are many. Still voting for him in a two-horse-race against Trump (even a Trump who was less of an incompetent, corrupt and racist bully) every day of the week, though, because politics isn't just about personal virtue.
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What'sinaname wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
The last time I checked Dan hasn’t been indicted on 78 odd felony counts which would incur decades in prison if convicted.Come back to us when that happens please.
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What'sinaname wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
You're losing perspective there.

Needless to say, being an annoying dic£ of a premier is not on the same planet as being a vengeful, erratic, criminal, amoral malignant narcissist, backed by dangerous extremist groups. Trump is distorting the entire political and legal system of the superpower even as he tries to wrest back control of the levers of power.
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What'sinaname wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
This is just so ridiculous it has to be called out. I am utterly opposed to Andrews. He is a right wing Laborite no different from Perritot, with whom he collaborated on a daily basis.

However, Andrews is nothing in any way similar to Trump.
1) Trump calls for refugees attempting to cross the Rio Grande to be eaten by crocodiles or speared on barbed wire. I have never heard Andrews make such an appeal.
2) Trump attempted to overthrow the Constitution of the United States, annul an election result, and install himself as a presidential dictator. I have not seen Andrews attempt such a feat.
3) Trump called on fascist militia to swarm the White House. Andrews has never organised a lumpen rabble to swarm Parliament House in Canberra.

Let us please avoid such moronic comparisons.
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What'sinaname wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
What a moronic comment from the right wing element worshipping Trump but have denigrated many from the left including Mandela in the past
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lazzadesilva wrote:
What'sinaname wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:The closest thing we have to Trump and his supporters in Australia is in Victoria with Dan and his cult.
Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
What a moronic comment from the right wing element worshipping Trump but have denigrated many from the left including Mandela in the past
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eddiesmith wrote:
lazzadesilva wrote:
What'sinaname wrote: Ironic isn't it. The left can see all the faults in Trump and none of the same in Dan.
What a moronic comment from the right wing element worshipping Trump but have denigrated many from the left including Mandela in the past
I term the current Collingwood attack based strategy “Unceasing Waves” like on a stormy and windy day with rough seas. A Perfect Storm ☔️
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Another day another 41 inidictments for the career criminal,this time in Georgia.Charges include racketeering,forgery and perjury among others.And people think this man is still a viable Presidential candidate?Amazing.
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^

The guy is still a viable Presidential candidate for one simple reason, people will vote for him. He's well in front in the polling for the Republican candidate which, I agree, makes you shake you head and go WTF, but that's how it is.

The other frightening thing is that if Trump and Biden go head to head for the POTUS, both will be older going into the election than any sitting POTUS previously.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Is there a precedent for the man with the nuclear button goingto the Big House?
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No, but there is a precedent for the man with his finger on the nuclear button belonging in a Nursing Home.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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A usefully annotated version of the Georgia indictment in the NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... tated.html
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