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sb Melbourne Cup

Vauban 4.60
Without A Fight 6.50
Gold Trip 7.00
Absurde 9.00
Soulcombe 10.00
Lastotchka 18.00
Future History 19.00
Breakup 20.00
Vow and Declare, Military Mission, More Felons 27.00
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Done my usual Melbourne Cup bxt ~

#1. Gold Trip (FR) (2)
#3. Without A Fight (IRE) (16)
#7. Absurde (FR) (8.)
#8. Right You Are (AUS) (15)
#11. Ashrun (FR) (11)
#20. More Felons (IRE) (24)

Only the 2 AUS runners this year.
9 from IRE, 8 from FR, 2 from GB and 1 each from JPN and NZ.
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Just occurred to me, should we be having a bit on #16 Magical Lagoon @ $101?...
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Melbourne Cup results

1st: 3. Without A Fight. $9.10, $3.30
2nd: 6. Soulcombe. $3.40
3rd: 14. Sheraz. $17.40

4th: 11. Ashrun
5th: 12. Daqiansweet Junior
6th: 22. Interpretation
7th: 7. Absurde
8th: 24. True Marvel
9th: 9. Vow And Declare
10th: 17. Military Mission
11th: 13. Okita Soushi
12th: 20. More Felons
13th: 15. Lastotchka
14th: 5. Vauban
15th: 21. Future History
16th: 4. Breakup
17th: 1. Gold Trip
18th: 19. Virtuous Circle
19th: 18. Serpentine5
20th: 23. Kalapour
21th: 2. Alenquer
22th: 16. Magical Lagoon
23rd: 8. Right You Are (failed to finish)
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LaurieHolden wrote:...
Only the 2 AUS runners this year.
9 from IRE, 8 from FR, 2 from GB and 1 each from JPN and NZ.
Dunno what it is usually, but that had me :o ... or maybe even :shock: ...

Reckon I can guess who the JPN horse was. :wink: Makes me hungry just thinking 'bout it!


The pre-race experts' call that Vauban was way too short looks right now. One was quoted saying there was a 1 missing in front of Vauban's odds!! Faded badly.

sb offered "rest of field" odds against Vauban of 1.15.
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Offered Mum to put a bet on for her, she picked without a flight, I picked Soulcombe.
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Did you couple them ? Quinella or Exacta ?
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Without A Fight: first horse since 2001 to win the Caulfield Cup-Melbourne Cup double.

Winners of the cups double incl.: Let's Elope (91), Doriemus (95), Might And Power (97), Ethereal (01).

Since 2002, the only favourites to win: Makybe Diva (04, 05), Fiorente (13).


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Donny wrote:Did you couple them ? Quinella or Exacta ?
Nah, I don't know how that stuff works, I'm a very seldom gambler. Just $5 on each for the win and place, plus a couple of others, one of which is still running. :wink:
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Same here, mate. Haven't had a bet on the races since Melb. Cup 2 years ago. Tried to get on but was too confusing.

Just as well. My numbers ran nowhere, including dead last (pulled up), #8.
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Melbourne Cup winner Verry Elleegant died while giving birth in Ireland.


Sydney-based part-owner Brae Sokolski:

“In layman’s terms, the foal position was in the worst position it could be in. They call it a ‘dog-sitter’ position. It was almost impossible to get the foal out. They couldn’t save the foal, and the foal caused a lot of internal damage to Verry Elleegant.

“They rushed her to a clinic, but they couldn’t save her. Verry Elleegant was insured, but it’s irrelevant. She was like a member of the family. I’ll never race another one that is better.”
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500/1 multi collects don't come along too often, but when they do :)

Took ;
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Elliot - kick;1st, 2nd or 3rd goal
Hill - kick 3+ goals
Checkers kick 2+ goals
Mitchell 20+ possessions
Neale 25+ possessions

A teeny $5 returns $2500. A grand off the mortgage, $500 into Kels holiday account, a bit of play money for the weekend and a big one at the casino coming up on Sunday afternoon. 8)
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Any safe (i.e. not good-value longshots, but safe short odds) horsie tips for this weekend, Skids?? :?:

May need to place some bets...
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Black Caviar, Champion Racehorse and Australian Icon, Dies
She won every race she ran, and her fame went beyond the insular world of horseracing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/18/worl ... -dies.html

'She transcended racing to become a household name in Australia and revived, for a time, a sport in decline. At the height of her career, she graced the cover of Vogue, met Queen Elizabeth II and had her own line of shampoo and conditioner.

Black Caviar, the Australian racehorse whose unbeaten streak of 25 victories from 2009 to 2013 made her a cultural icon, died on Saturday, one day before her 18th birthday.

Her death was confirmed by the Victoria Racing Club in a statement. Australian news media reported that her trainer, Peter Moody, said Black Caviar was euthanized after giving birth to a foal because she was suffering from laminitis, a painful disease that affects the hooves of horses. ...

Between 2009 and 2013, Black Caviar won 25 races from 25 starts, earning more than $5.3 million (about 8 million Australian dollars) in prize money. From 2010 to 2013, she was ranked the world’s best sprinter racehorse by the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities. Some media outlets described her as “the world’s most popular racehorse.”
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At times, Black Caviar’s fame transcended her equine nature. In 2012, she was named “sportswoman of the year” by one newspaper, controversially beating out a human Olympic hurdling champion, Sally Pearson. ...
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In 2013, Mr. Moody said that Black Caviar would retire and be used for breeding. “She’s done everything we asked her to do; she couldn’t possibly have done any more,” he said at the time.

The retirement made headlines. Julia Gillard, then Australia’s prime minister, said on social media: “We’ve never seen anything like Black Caviar before and may never again.”'


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This horse will not be running in the Melbourne Cup. Australians can still bet on it

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/racing/ ... 5kbnq.html

'Punters are still being allowed to place bets on a UK import to win the Melbourne Cup even though the horse has already failed an industry vet test and won’t be running in the race.

Relentless Voyager, a northern hemisphere 4-year-old gelding, has been listed in Cup markets with Australian bookmakers for the past week despite news filtering through that it won’t run on the first Tuesday in November.
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When asked if it was unfair on punters that the horse was still being listed in betting markets, the spokesperson said they advised gamblers to be cautious about backing international horses before they arrived safely in Melbourne.
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Since the introduction of new veterinary protocols in 2021, the Melbourne Cup has been run without serious injuries.'



[Huh? So punters don't get refunded if a horse doesn't start??]
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