Pies vs Bombers (away)
Saturday 29 June @ 1.05pm. Venue Windy Hill.
Match centre:
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/6499
Telecast via VFL website and app.
Ladder: Pies 19th (2 wins, 9 losses, 78.7%) Bombers 18th (3 wins, 8 losses, 80.6%)
VFL Round 14
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VFL Round 14
If you are foolish enough to be contented, don't show it, but just grumble with the rest. - Jerome K Jerome
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https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/1 ... -selection
IN: Finlay Macrae, Tew Jiath, Reef McInnes, Ed Allan, Ned Long, YuYu Ashwin, Angus Seivers, Jed Longmire.
OUT: Wil Parker (Injured), Jonathan Tomasiello, Josh Mathey, Jet Hartman, Connor Wills, Harry Mahoney, Chad Mulvogue, Harry Flynn.
ESSENDON v COLLINGWOOD
B Harry DeMattia Josh Eyre Jakob Ryan
HB Cooper MacDonald Campbell Lane Tew Jiath
C Ed Allan Ned Long YuYu Ashwin
HF Sam Glover Harry Kennedy Ben Crocker
F Ash Johnson Reef McInnes Angus Seivers
R Iliro Smit Jack Bytel Finlay Macrae
INT Kaden Schreiber Jed Longmire Ryan Sparkes
Hayden Brown Tom Wilson
IN: Finlay Macrae, Tew Jiath, Reef McInnes, Ed Allan, Ned Long, YuYu Ashwin, Angus Seivers, Jed Longmire.
OUT: Wil Parker (Injured), Jonathan Tomasiello, Josh Mathey, Jet Hartman, Connor Wills, Harry Mahoney, Chad Mulvogue, Harry Flynn.
ESSENDON v COLLINGWOOD
B Harry DeMattia Josh Eyre Jakob Ryan
HB Cooper MacDonald Campbell Lane Tew Jiath
C Ed Allan Ned Long YuYu Ashwin
HF Sam Glover Harry Kennedy Ben Crocker
F Ash Johnson Reef McInnes Angus Seivers
R Iliro Smit Jack Bytel Finlay Macrae
INT Kaden Schreiber Jed Longmire Ryan Sparkes
Hayden Brown Tom Wilson
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
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Well at least Josh Eyre has been named at FB. Prefer to see Sam Glover back there intercept marking, don't understand the team sheet selection otherwise why we try to make it so hard for our VFL defense.
VFL Pies best midfield mix for a while with Long, Macrae, Bytel and Sparkes so looking for this group to dig in and win the ball forward. Good ops for Allen and DeMattia today.
Looking for good signs today from TJ.
Awful wet and cold conditions though so Ash Johnson is probably going to tear it up with impossible marks and goals today.
VFL Pies best midfield mix for a while with Long, Macrae, Bytel and Sparkes so looking for this group to dig in and win the ball forward. Good ops for Allen and DeMattia today.
Looking for good signs today from TJ.
Awful wet and cold conditions though so Ash Johnson is probably going to tear it up with impossible marks and goals today.
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
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EMG: H. Flynn, N. Christian, J. Hartman, R. Penny, J. Tomasiello, C. Mulvogue
NEW: Angus Seivers, 20, 194cm, Greensborough, A forward, formerly on Box Hills playing list.
Disapointing that Parker is out for a month with a knee injury.
Interesting to have Glover at half forward but then there is still the option to move to the backline if needed.
Team never usually starts as named, so there may be some changes.
Yep, its good to see we have a reasonable midfield for todays game.
Hopefuly we can get some decent delivery into the forward 50, no bombing it in. Not the conditions for long bombs (unless the is a brezze at your back kicking fof goal).
Rain is supposed to clear a bit later this arvo but willl still be windy.
NEW: Angus Seivers, 20, 194cm, Greensborough, A forward, formerly on Box Hills playing list.
Disapointing that Parker is out for a month with a knee injury.
Interesting to have Glover at half forward but then there is still the option to move to the backline if needed.
Team never usually starts as named, so there may be some changes.
Yep, its good to see we have a reasonable midfield for todays game.
Hopefuly we can get some decent delivery into the forward 50, no bombing it in. Not the conditions for long bombs (unless the is a brezze at your back kicking fof goal).
Rain is supposed to clear a bit later this arvo but willl still be windy.
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Dark Beannie I guess we've been vindicated with Glover going back but they're persisting with Eyre at FF and we can't resist a long kick to an outnumber in the F50. Eyre trying hard getting to the front of the pack but has missed 4marks without the ball coming to ground in our favour.
Fortunately AJ has kicked the first goal off the ground from the square.
The mids and HBs have been messy so far but the Dons VFL making more skill errors than us. Bryan's height and experience a bit much for Smit so far. Smit ok around the ground but has that slow high looping kick style that's easy to pick off, needs to work on that technique.
Allen getting sucked into the contest too much. Needs to get out in space to use his attributes.
McInnes has had lots of opportunities at HF in the first without taking any. Struggling with the slippery ball and taking too long when in posession.
Pretty even in the first quarter Pies by 2 points 1.3.9 to 1.1.7
Tough conditions, going to be a tough day
Fortunately AJ has kicked the first goal off the ground from the square.
The mids and HBs have been messy so far but the Dons VFL making more skill errors than us. Bryan's height and experience a bit much for Smit so far. Smit ok around the ground but has that slow high looping kick style that's easy to pick off, needs to work on that technique.
Allen getting sucked into the contest too much. Needs to get out in space to use his attributes.
McInnes has had lots of opportunities at HF in the first without taking any. Struggling with the slippery ball and taking too long when in posession.
Pretty even in the first quarter Pies by 2 points 1.3.9 to 1.1.7
Tough conditions, going to be a tough day
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
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Half time:
Bombers 5.7.37 lead Pies 5.5.35
Goals: Eyre 2, Long, Macrae, Johnson
Top disposals: Bytel 15, Macrae 13, Lane 11
Only watching bits of the game in btw other Saturday arvo tasks.
Very greasy conditions, players slipping over, difficult to get ground balls.
Quite a few rolling mauls & ball ups. As usual, VFL umps reluctant to call anything other than the absolute obvious.
Smit getting beaten in the ruck but Pies just winning the clearances.
Bombers using handball and run better than the Pies who are trying to get the ball on the boot in an effort to clear it.
Bombers 5.7.37 lead Pies 5.5.35
Goals: Eyre 2, Long, Macrae, Johnson
Top disposals: Bytel 15, Macrae 13, Lane 11
Only watching bits of the game in btw other Saturday arvo tasks.
Very greasy conditions, players slipping over, difficult to get ground balls.
Quite a few rolling mauls & ball ups. As usual, VFL umps reluctant to call anything other than the absolute obvious.
Smit getting beaten in the ruck but Pies just winning the clearances.
Bombers using handball and run better than the Pies who are trying to get the ball on the boot in an effort to clear it.
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even second quarter goal for goal, pies got out to a 14point lead early but the dons pegged them back to take a 2point lead on the siren.
some good goals from Long Macrae and Eyre. Some lazy defending late let the dons back in it.
all to win in the second half
some good goals from Long Macrae and Eyre. Some lazy defending late let the dons back in it.
all to win in the second half
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
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I like Eyre up forward, he was originally drafted as a CHF. He's having a crack but it's a shit day for overhead marking, the ball must be like a cake of soap.
I assume he doesn't have the stamina atm after that Hamstring lay off but I'd love to see him playing like Travis Cloke, roaming up around the 50m arc where you can get a better look at marks and he can kick goals from outside 50, he's got a thumping boot.
Reef having a quiet one, he should be parked in the goal square as the leading forward with short bursts in the midfield, the way Jordy started out.
Macrae getting a bit of the ball, but I'm still not seeing it.
Smit trying hard but Bryan is a big unit and this is his 5th year in the AFL system.
I assume he doesn't have the stamina atm after that Hamstring lay off but I'd love to see him playing like Travis Cloke, roaming up around the 50m arc where you can get a better look at marks and he can kick goals from outside 50, he's got a thumping boot.
Reef having a quiet one, he should be parked in the goal square as the leading forward with short bursts in the midfield, the way Jordy started out.
Macrae getting a bit of the ball, but I'm still not seeing it.
Smit trying hard but Bryan is a big unit and this is his 5th year in the AFL system.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Final score:
Bombers 14.14.98 defeated Pies 9.9.63
Goals: McInnes. Long, Johnson, Eyre 2, Macrae 1
Top disposals: Bytel 28, Macrae 24, Lane 22, Glover 21
AF Points: Macrae 95, Bytel 88, Lane 86
Outscored 9.7 to 4.4 in the 2nd half.
Bryan had a field day in the ruck against a younger & less experienced Smit.
Bombers 14.14.98 defeated Pies 9.9.63
Goals: McInnes. Long, Johnson, Eyre 2, Macrae 1
Top disposals: Bytel 28, Macrae 24, Lane 22, Glover 21
AF Points: Macrae 95, Bytel 88, Lane 86
Outscored 9.7 to 4.4 in the 2nd half.
Bryan had a field day in the ruck against a younger & less experienced Smit.
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Well i missed the second half and sounds like a I got lucky based on the final score and stats.
Despite all the players who've gone up and done jobs at AFL level we are awful this year in the VFL. We had a good first month but have been nowhere near it since.
This can only be by design. We have no defense and refuse to support the rest of the team by failing to set up the back half of the ground. Many of our VFL listed players are not up to it. For a wealthy club, I get the feeling we pay peanuts at VFL level.
No VFL level ruck support. No key forwards or key defenders. A few medium size players imitating talls and we have plenty of small plodders. Sparkes the exception. I still don't understand Eyre playing forward whilst we have the mess down back although he was good in the first half at FF. We're routinely beaten by opposition talls due to our dwarf like defense and lack of tall support. No doubt they can perform for a bit but not the whole match.
But the performances today and in recent months (is that 8 or 9 losses on the trot now) aren't impacted by the players going up or down as we've pretty much only played one key defender the entire time. Dean did well with little support. Glover does amazingly for a mid size player.
Poor Sam Glover. Not sure why he would want to play VFL Pies again next year.
ah well VFL pies hopefully there is a better performance coming soon. Needs a change in structure for me down back otherwise it's going to a be a long time coming.
Despite all the players who've gone up and done jobs at AFL level we are awful this year in the VFL. We had a good first month but have been nowhere near it since.
This can only be by design. We have no defense and refuse to support the rest of the team by failing to set up the back half of the ground. Many of our VFL listed players are not up to it. For a wealthy club, I get the feeling we pay peanuts at VFL level.
No VFL level ruck support. No key forwards or key defenders. A few medium size players imitating talls and we have plenty of small plodders. Sparkes the exception. I still don't understand Eyre playing forward whilst we have the mess down back although he was good in the first half at FF. We're routinely beaten by opposition talls due to our dwarf like defense and lack of tall support. No doubt they can perform for a bit but not the whole match.
But the performances today and in recent months (is that 8 or 9 losses on the trot now) aren't impacted by the players going up or down as we've pretty much only played one key defender the entire time. Dean did well with little support. Glover does amazingly for a mid size player.
Poor Sam Glover. Not sure why he would want to play VFL Pies again next year.
ah well VFL pies hopefully there is a better performance coming soon. Needs a change in structure for me down back otherwise it's going to a be a long time coming.
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
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