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SLORT wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:14 am
Just a look at some of the defender options ~
Name Height Age I.Mark Spoils
Laverde 1.93m, 27yo, 1.9int 3.6sp
I'd be happier with Laverde than Stringer. If we've fallen apart for one role down back and still largely have the same forward line then I would target Laverde over Stringer. Dons may want more for him at 27 but he's surplus to their needs so we're in play. If we can't use the Noble trade to eke out a Dan Houston trade I'd be happy to trade some Noble spoils for Laverde.
Boring Fact: Laverde was in the same draft as DeGoey and Moore and talked up as one of the players we could take if DeGoey wasn't available. Grateful that he was and 2023 was a premiership year.
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark of the last quarter
If we're seriously looking at a tall marking forward with the short term in mind, Would Sam Day from the Suns or Matt Tabener from Freo be worth a look? Both have been delisted so could be picked up as a delisted free agent for nothing.
Both have been forced out by young KPP's, but we don't have any of those. An alternative if we don't get stringer, we could (and should) try to draft a young KPP or 2 but they take years to develop and our need is now.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
If we can get the Suns first pick I'd rather we took it to the draft and got an 18 yo KPF than Stringer or Laverde
There are a whole group of KPFs available yes they wont really help win the GF in 2024
Remember King at StKilda played a lot of senior football his first year
They will be a Key Forward for the next decade not for two or three years
neil wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:51 pm
If we can get the Suns first pick I'd rather we took it to the draft and got an 18 yo KPF than Stringer or Laverde
There are a whole group of KPFs available yes they wont really help win the GF in 2024
Remember King at StKilda played a lot of senior football his first year
They will be a Key Forward for the next decade not for two or three years
If we are lucky enough to get 12 or 20, we won't be wasting it on Stringer or Laverde. They'll go for mid 40's or above as they are not really wanted and clubs know that.
That pick either goes to the draft or somehow used in the Houston trade, hopefully.
LaurieHolden wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:45 pmNorth Melbourne has reportedly placed their first-round selection for the 2025 AFL Draft on the table in a bid to lure contracted Port Adelaide defender Dan Houston to Arden Street.
That will end any chance of us getting him then. Unless he specifically says "Make me a Pie". Does Dan really want to go from Port to North?
All we can really do is offer Joe, next years first, and maybe next years 2nd too...? Other clubs simply have better draft hands. Unless we improve our draft hand after Noble trade, etc.
Elliott Himmelberg was one I thought we could groom into replace Cox, but with Cox going around again and with Condon on the way over soon, I think this is one to now pass on. Yes he is in another teams best 22 and yes he is a tall forward, but I no longer think he is a fit in 2025. The Suns are currently looking at him with an offer of more game time.
Stringer, I reckon, is one the is going to happen. He's finished with Essendon. But the deal still needs to be right. And if it is, then it wont take long for us to get around him. The challenge for him will be staying fit and staying motivated. Then we ask ourselves about other Essendon players availability and if we want; Hobbs, Jones, Wright, Laverde, etc. Fin Macrae has been linked to Essendon (as has his older brother from the Dogs).
Perryman as a UFA is a no-brainer. Make the offer, see what happens. Getting players via free agency is always a win, without having to make a trade and losing picks. Peatling is a great trade target and hopefully one we can make without selling the farm.
The big one is gonna be Dan Houston. Are we really a chance here? They'll be no trade for 'Trac and Bailey Smith is sounding like no chance either, as much as I'm secretly wishing for it to happen. So is Houston a real possibility??
We know Joe and Noble are likely on the move and will both probably end up in picks coming our way. Ed and Beau are definite keepers for me after both were earlier talked about as trade possibilities. But who out there has interest in Kreuger, Ash and Reef? Are we eying off any Demons players, do any others want out? I'm not keen on Tomlinson. I know we're all really focused on replacing Murphy and also finding a key forward, I just dont know who can fill these roles.
Cox, Howe, Steele and Jamie are likely entering their final season, so we need to be mindful of that. Pendles too, but I believe he may go on if the games record is in reach. Tom Mitchell was earlier linked to North, but that talk has gone away. I wonder if we would still entertain that trade if it brought in a pick we could use elsewhere?
Sorry, gone on a classic P35 trade target rant here. I guess I'll finish off by saying that I just hope we can trade in players that will help us in 2025, whilst also holding on to a pick that can get us one or both Whitlock twins. Very wishful thinking.
I think supporters need to come to terms with the approach the club is taking with the recruitment of mature players.
Signing up young players and racking up draft picks is romantic for supporters because there’s the potential to bring in these generational talents, but the reality is it almost always doesn’t pan out that way.
If it were as simple as having a young team, Collingwood should have won every premiership through the 2010’s after being the youngest premiership team of the modern era (at that time). Alternatively; North would be completely dominant, having had a million first rounders year, after year, after year.
Sydney, Geelong and Collingwood have remained competitive for 20 by plugging holes with reliable mature players (and some lucky hits on Academy or F/S), while teams that go nuclear on the rebuild languish for years upon years.
Mature age players are known quantities. Also worth noting that as years go by the sports science and training methods mean players are healthier and longevity increases, so a 30 year old isn’t nearly as worn down as before.
Pick 12 for Noble would be better than watching Jack Ginnivan getting zero possessions as the Power smack the Hawks by 87 points. But ain’t gunna happen.
Any thoughts on Jake Riccardi from GWS? Has fallen behind Hogan Cadman and the other early pick in the key forward stakes following a finger injury, discussed on Sportsday today. Also Callum Brown from GWS possibly looking to move, who I remember destroyed Collingwood in the prelim.
^Riccardi and Brown. Two good suggestions. Both young, both fill a need on the list, particularly Riccardi.
Brown carved us up in the Opening Round this year; kicked 5. Born in Luton and raised in Ireland. He isnt really a key forward tho.
Riccardi was linked to us in his draft year, but got to GWS. I would much rather get a guy like this, then a 31 year old Taberner. Would be above Kreuger and Johnson, but can he fit in with McStay and Mihocek?
I can't see the benefit in recruiting C-Grade players like Riccardi to try and fill key position forward roles. He has never been able to demonstrate an ability to perform consistently at AFL level and would at best be an option for our VFL team.
Callum Brown is an interesting player. He looked a million dollars when he ripped Collingwood apart in the openning round of this year by kicking 5 goals from the forward flank. He is a big bodied forward with elite pace. I haven't kept up to date on why he is no longer in the GWS best team at the moment, perhaps he is injured?
Based on what I saw during that first game of this season he would be worth a look at if he has fallen out of favor with the GWS?
