Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player discussion

[LaurieHolden]

@Boot Contracted until the end of 2026, Jake Riccardi has not been able to play a full season since drafted at #51 in the 2019 AFL National Draft after being twice overlooked in the AFL draft. Someone might know why this was the case, was it character or capability?
He was unable to force his way into Leon Cameron’s attacking setup which revolved around Toby Greene, Jeremy Finlayson and Harry Himmelberg.
He dislocated his finger in R19 which effectively put a line through this season.
There's appears to be something there though, but I'd love to know if outside of ability there's a knock on is character and professionalism.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... cardi.html

[LaurieHolden]

Hey @Pies2016 do you or anyone else have any eye on Will Phillips development? https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/will-phillips/
The #3 pick in the 2020 National Draft has not been handed games in this North Melbourne side, despite the team floating around the bottom of the ladder for successive seasons. He is an NFA in 2025 and seemingly struggling to force is way into their midfield.
Other than Haw. Grainger-Barras and Ess. Zach Reid, he's played the least games from the 2020 National Draft top 10 crop.
https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2020

North has a plethora of mid-field types so surely they'll struggle to give them the starting opportunities they'd no doubt be seeking let alone fit all of them into their cap.

• National Draft pick 12 Jy Simpkin - 2029
  National Draft pick 4 Luke Davies -Uniacke - 2025
  National Draft pick 3 Will Phillips - 2025
  National Draft pick 13 Tom Powell - 2026
  National Draft pick 1 Jason Horne-Francis (traded)
  National Draft pick 2 Colby McKercher - 2026
  National Draft pick 4 Zane Duursma - 2026
  National Draft pick 3 Harry Sheezel - 2030
  National Draft pick 4 George Wardlaw - 2026

That'd pose an interesting give to get scenario for our list managers.

[Magpie Russ]

Will Phillips resigned.. I thought hence never mentioned as a trade.

[jatsad]

Another option is Elliot Himmelberg at the Crows. Out of contract, unrestricted free agent.

Just no. Can't get a regular game at the crows.

[scoobydoo]

Pick 12 for Noble would be better than watching Jack Ginnivan getting zero possessions as the Power smack the Hawks by 87 points. But ain’t gunna happen.

Why no possessions for Ginnivan?
They gave away a contracted player who was at the beginning of his development.
Who by the way kicked 40+ in a season like old man stringer. Fly’s & Wrightys biggest mistakes

[jatsad]

Pick 12 for Noble would be better than watching Jack Ginnivan getting zero possessions as the Power smack the Hawks by 87 points. But ain’t gunna happen.

Why no possessions for Ginnivan?
They gave away a contracted player who was at the beginning of his development.
Who by the way kicked 40+ in a season like old man stringer. Fly’s & Wrightys biggest mistakes

Don't reckon it was a mistake. Ginniflog is just that and disrespected everyone at the club. Good riddance.
Schultz kicked one less goal in 2 less games and tackles like a madman.
Ginniglog can't even spell tackle.
Everyone said Schultz had a crap year, but with those stats, imagine when he has a good year.

[Mr Miyagi]

Nah, only a matter of time until Ginnivan would have been caught in a pub toilet again if he’d stayed with us — but all the flogs with their phones are only interested in 15 minutes of fame with Collingwood players, so Jack should sail through the rest of his career without a worry he’ll get filmed again. I’m happy he’s gone, no player is replaceable (except Pendles).

Himmelberg would be a good fit for us, always liked the way he played against us.

As long as we don’t offer a ten year $12million dollar deal to anyone.

[Presti35]

A few delistings at Carlton today. And also talk of Dusty coming back to play for the Suns next year.

[Presti35]

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... cardi.html

Are these C-Grade numbers? We know that he is not a proven match winner, but 35 goals in 2023 and 26 in 2024 isn't too bad is it? Ok, he isnt Wayne Carey, but I would say he would be in front of Ash and Kreuger and surely a better suggestion than Taberner and Lobb.

[SLORT]

Career averages:
Riccardi - 10disp, 4.4marks, 1.3g, 0.8b, 1.3tackles
Ash - 7.3disp, 3.3marks, 1.3g, 0.7b, 1.7tackles

An upgrade? Not meaningfully. Remember Ash has been jerked about a bit, same as Kreuger (pushed back, 2nd ruck, key forward, etc). I think Ash should leave for his own sake as I think he'd do better at a club with two strong key forwards (think Adelaide or Carlton). I'd like us to give K a pre-season at full-back to see if he could be a better Frampton.

[Pies2016]

Hey @Pies2016 do you or anyone else have any eye on Will Phillips development? https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/will-phillips/
The #3 pick in the 2020 National Draft has not been handed games in this North Melbourne side, despite the team floating around the bottom of the ladder for successive seasons. He is an NFA in 2025 and seemingly struggling to force is way into their midfield.

Being a former Charger, I saw a bit of Phillips as a junior and I know his story pretty well.
He was incredibly disciplined and committed for a junior, something you understandably don’t see that often in 17 year old boys. He was a leader and standards driver in that Chargers outfit.

I know that North picked him partly on the back of his professionalism and preparation ( this was later confirmed by Rawlings who was in charge of their footy Dept at the time ) but I was still surprised he went so high because he wasn’t necessarily a stand out as a player.
He’s also had to cop a lot of flak about being picked one spot before Logan McDonald and although that’s not his fault, North supporters have been very unforgiving ever since.
He’s had some injuries and an illness early days and this season he made a bit of a comeback as a tagger and picked up some quality scalps.
From a distance, I’m not sure he would make us much better but there’s always a story behind the story, so you would trust the club to make the right call either way.

I haven’t checked these guys contract status but if we wanted to add some pace and youth into our line up, I’d be making enquiries about “ kids “ like Josh Sinn ( Port ) and Elijah Tsatas ( Essendon )
Both were line breakers and very impressive as juniors. Tsatas absolutely tore up our VFL team this year and I recently heard Sinn was a bit homesick and disappointed by his lack of opportunities over there. I’m only going by memory here but I think Tsatas was around #5 and Josh was in the early teens in their draft years. Both are Vic metro kids. They’re out there but timing is everything when it comes to players moving clubs.

[Presti35]

After watching Dom Brew for Werribee today, I got to wondering if he was any chance as a mature aged recruit? His final quarter was amazing and propelled Werribee to victory on a day where is hammered down and even hailed during the match.

He has had 2 good seasons in a row and brings lots of positive energy and emotion to the playing group. I think he may even be one of the faves for the Liston Trophy. He is tough and plays as an inside Mid, he has amazing leadership qualities and was the VFL state team captain earlier in the year. He'll be 28 in January, and at 180cm, some may say he is too similar to Lachie Sullivan for Collingwood to consider.

We saw Clohesy and Mannagh get drafted from Werribee last year. (Kind of weird for Clohesy as the Suns took him right after their VFL team beat Werribee in the GF). Some thought Brew was a chance last year. Could we see it this year?

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Dominic_Brew

[Presti35]

I think the difference is that Riccardi is playing and would be in GWS best 23 if not injured. 19 games this year for 26 goals whilst playing behind the Coleman Medal winner isn't too bad. I dont think Riccardi would want to leave anyway. We're also comparing 69 games to 27.

Ash had a huge opportunity to come in with McStay out all year. Maybe we expected too much of him after showing very promising signs in 2023. He may have even played in the GF had he not been injured late in the year. His PF performance in 2022 was somewhat rectified with his numbers in 2023, but the 3 games he played in 2024 were just plain bad.

I guess one way to look at it, is would Riccardi have played 19 or more games if he were at Collingwood in 2024? And do we still have hope that Ash can get back to what he showed in 2023?

[Gerry Cooper]

I would say after Peatling's good performances in two finals now, he won't be leaving the Giants

[Jen2310]

David Zita said on fox during this GWS game, Peatling is most likely staying now.