Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player discussion

[SLORT]

Listening to SEN it looks like Sam De Koning may be the lever that allows Bailey Smith to go to Geebung. Could be the basis of three way deals. Should we try to be involved or allow Cats & Dogs & Blues to play musical chairs alone?

[SLORT]

Out of interest after seeing the Godfather offer, and with an eye to putting together one of our own, I looked up who Sheezel barracked for as a "kid". Hawthorn...bet they'll come knocking one day...

[Presti35]

^ what was the Godfather offer?

Also, I didnt know Sam De Koning wanted out. Is he wanting to get to Blues? I dont think we need to help out these teams, but I just wish we were getting Smith.

[SLORT]

^ what was the Godfather offer?

Also, I didnt know Sam De Koning wanted out. Is he wanting to get to Blues? I dont think we need to help out these teams, but I just wish we were getting Smith.

No idea what St Kilda is putting together to get the trade done, but I think they were talking about paying Merrett 1.5m per year.

Geebung is ignoring Sam by not picking him. If that remains the case for the remainder of the season it'd seem that something is going on. As to Carlton, it's actually Sam that grew up barracking for the Blues so that's why I was thinking some 3-way may end up happening.

[K]

Just a look at some of the defender options ~
Name Height Age I.Mark Spoils
Laverde 1.93m, 27yo, 1.9int 3.6sp

I'd be happier with Laverde than Stringer. If we've fallen apart for one role down back and still largely have the same forward line then I would target Laverde over Stringer. Dons may want more for him at 27 but he's surplus to their needs so we're in play. If we can't use the Noble trade to eke out a Dan Houston trade I'd be happy to trade some Noble spoils for Laverde.
...

Stats showed Laverde and another Ess. defender were two of the worst defenders in the AFL this season for winning 1-on-1 contests.

IIRC Laverde was also one of the defenders (Jake Kelly was in the frame too) who let Jamie take that last-second mark to win that game for Collingwood two seasons ago. At the time, Matthew Lloyd said that ball should have been spoiled 10 rows back into the crowd.

[The Black and White Lion]

^ well I wasn’t exactly enamoured by the stringer links and you just rubbed off any hint of gloss on Laverde. Haha. Geez we’re lucky we picked DeGoey and not Laverde

[piffdog]

^ well I wasn’t exactly enamoured by the stringer links and you just rubbed off any hint of gloss on Laverde. Haha. Geez we’re lucky we picked DeGoey and not Laverde

Careful - we wouldnt want to see any credit accrue to our list managers for prior decisions...

[piffdog]

Kennedy (Carlton) has been told to look for a new home. Is he the kind of "poor mans Cripps" we would like to see in the middle? Ignoring the potential cost (wouldnt be much), I think he would be additive to our midfield (an upgrade on Lipinski and Sullivan etc) and potentially keep Mitchell out of the team. 27yo, 188cm. Probably just played his best season. Could be a nice "guardian" for our man Nick.

[LaurieHolden]

@piffdog While I agree with the premise, he's similar to Jack Macrae & Jack Bytel. Is he too one paced to break lines? Given he's only an average kick he lacks elite hands to be a reliable distributor to outside runners.
Perhaps too similar to Long? You would expect him to be an upgrade on Long, but is he worth twice or 3x the price? Maybe. We certainly need big midfielder grunt, but you need to bring other players into the game with a skill set.

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[Pies2016]

As supporters, we’re going to need to be both patient and rational when it comes to the rumours surrounding players swapping clubs or not. Every year, offers to players to leave their parent clubs, are becoming more outlandish and out of touch, when compared to their true worth. Our club can either join that circus and act irresponsibly or just hold their nerve and focus on player acquisitions that don’t derail the salary cap or hamstring our medium term list management.
Whether right or wrong, the club has decided it’s a real chance to snag a flag in 2025, so there will be a player or two added onto our list in the coming weeks. The key is to be responsible with their contracts in the process. The easiest way to put a player out of joint is to have them believe they aren’t getting paid what they are worth, while others are getting overs for doing less.

F W I W, I wouldn’t be getting to bent out of shape just yet because three weeks out from the start of the trade period, nobody has committed to Collingwood yet. There’s a lot of water to go under the bridge before this trade period is done.

[Magpie Russ]

As supporters, we’re going to need to be both patient and rational when it comes to the rumours surrounding players swapping clubs or not.

This is the silly season so I am going to be impatient and irrational!
(and stop making sense)

[Magpie Russ]

If we could this is the player we should be going after: Isaac Cumming is going: Giants star to explore free agency move
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1222647/gre ... move-to-sa

Seems he wants to go to SA.

[warburton lad]

I agree 100%

Isaac Cumming would be a fabulous get for our club (Unrestricted Free Agent)
188cms and 80kgs and only 26 years old- perfect demographic for us.

If we could add Jake Stringer (cheap trade) and Nick Haynes (Unrestricted Free Agent) we would have addressed a few of our list holes and done so on the cheap.

Hell, if they are looking at all chips in for 2025, delisted Matt Taberner might be worth a roll of the dice...

Be brave, magpies.

[jatsad]

^

Cummings is going to SA.
The others, you can chuck away, especially Taberner.
Just no good and too old.
Haynes at 32, enough said.

[Pies2016]

As an aside, Nick Haynes, who was a wonderful footballer 5 years ago, has a unique medical condition that now impacts his ability to ever be at his best again. As an AFL player, he had taken so much anti inflammatory medication, it compromised his stomach and oesophagus linings. He now struggles constantly with ulcers and the perfect dietary preparation required by an elite AFL player. It’s “ public “ knowledge but given his decline in recent years, I’m not sure I’d be looking at Nick as the great white hope to take us forward.