The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

[Big T]

Most of the article is OK IMO, I cannot understand our preseason this year and also we knew all matches well in advance and still sook about travel.

[STOKA35]

oep I try and explain this to crow and port supporters evey day, I say if there was 10 teams in adelaide and two teams in melbourne the crows /portwould travel only 4 times a year they say no we would'nt, Im sick of it every year as well think of how many teams are in melbourne and do the math. I would rather be in crows position for a home game more of a home ground advantage than us at the g or dome

[jeff corfe]

oep I try and explain this to crow and port supporters evey day, I say if there was 10 teams in adelaide and two teams in melbourne the crows /portwould travel only 4 times a year they say no we would'nt, Im sick of it every year as well think of how many teams are in melbourne and do the math. I would rather be in crows position for a home game more of a home ground advantage than us at the g or dome

Because of the distinct home ground advantage that interstate clubs have when playing at home should ensure that all interstate clubs have a high percentage chance of making the finals..One wonders why Carro goes lenient on the biggest underachievers of all time. The Fremantle football club.
This is backed up by statistics over the last ten years with premierships going interstate.. For instance The Gabba is a harder ground to win on for opposition clubs than what it is for Brisbane to win games at the MCG...Playing Collingwood at the MCG in front of a full house is of no advantage to Collingwood as our opposing club will rise for the challenge.

[John Wren]

One wonders why Carro goes lenient on the biggest underachievers of all time. The Fremantle football club.

i would hazard a guess it's because no one in this state gives a rat's clacker about freo.

[Steve86]

i hate this girl, but what annoys me the most is i read that article imagining her saying it, in her annoying lame dichead way of speaking. The woman is a joke. she thinks she knows something about football. and too be honest i dont no why people jump at the opportunity to bag pies about us never leaving melbourne. THE AFL wanted us to do it so interstates could have home prelims. NO ONE ever mentions that now do they.

[pietillidie]

Take the entirely unfounded criticisms slipped into the restrictive relative clause in the opening sentence of her cheap attack. She places the mischievous adjectives "unusual" and "unhappy" in a restrictive relative clause because this conflates them with the subject noun making it difficult for the reader to consciously isolate them and thereby demonstrate their falsehood. That is, syntactically, our minds are programmed to read the subject noun and restrictive relative clase as a single block, even though the relative clause contains assertions that warrant independent critique:

[ANYONE [who has followed the Magpies' unusual and too often unhappy pre-season]]...

The reader's brain, therefore, is bludgeoned into accepting the assertions embedded in the relative clause as it moves on quickly looking for the verb which it expects to follow the noun group. If our brains allowed us to pause and unpack the propaganda, we would no doubt ask:

"Unusual" on what basis?

On what basis has our season been "too often unhappy?"

And that is merely the first noun group of the first sentence. (The rest of the article does not justify these embedded assertions as the twit of a writer's explicit intention is to demonstrate the contentious but at least overtly expressed if unprovable criticism that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing at our club).

[chalky]

pietillidie, that was absolutely brilliant. Exactly,exactly exactly!!
All her assertions were baseless and lacked any qualitative evidence.
She asks questions about why would Collingwood agree to such an itinerary and leaves it at that! Ring up the club and talk to Ed or Gary and find out!! Be a journalist!! MM and his football lieutenants have never said that they do not want to go anywhere.
MM makes one statement about travel to Albany which is then repeated by the media and because she hears it over and over again on radio, TV she makes an illogical leap and assumes that MM appeared everywhere and whinged and whined and carried on.
She asserts that Collingwoods pre season training camp at altitude in SA is more important than appeasing the AFL and NAB cup comitments. That this is a mark of disrespect and inferred that the players laid down. MM has always stated and has made no secret that Collingwood has its own agenda re player management. The club will not be swayed by prize money or ridiculous draws. They will play those players that are in need of quality playing time in controlable environments esp in recovery
When all else sarcasm is trotted out. One would expect more from a senior football journo who generally relies on fact rather than inuendo EXCEPT when it comes to Collingwood. Never let the facts get in the way of a story esp if the paper makes money off it

[richo]

If she was a dog, you'd shave her backside and teach her to walk backwards.

[piesfan5]

Anyways, nothing too serious in this article. she can say what she wants what the hell do we care??

Obviously Mate, some people do care otherwise the article would not have been posted on this board allowing some to froth at the mouth and throw abuse at her!

i have to agree many of us do care
i hate carrow and i loved her getting her arse kicked by wayne carey last year on 9
was absolutely fantastic
she is a typical richmond scum fan who doesnt know what shes talking about, and the only thing she knows how to right about is backstabbing the pies.
I disagree a lot with Mike Sheehan but at least he can be fair to all 16 clubs and sadly the same can not be said for that bird who wrote that article.

[The Prototype]

I think it should be said out of all our trips interstate last year we only lost the one game and when we played them back in Melbourne we lost to all but Sydney. I made a little joke about this last year saying that maybe we should have played those games interstate it would have given us Top 4.

If the AFL wanted to fix this make it that teams play all teams twice, but then it's still unfair on interstate teams as they are always travelling.

[piesfan5]

oep I try and explain this to crow and port supporters evey day, I say if there was 10 teams in adelaide and two teams in melbourne the crows /portwould travel only 4 times a year they say no we would'nt, Im sick of it every year as well think of how many teams are in melbourne and do the math. I would rather be in crows position for a home game more of a home ground advantage than us at the g or dome

im really getting sick of all this crap about melbournian teams and i agree with you
In England there are roughly 8-9 London teams and they never have to travel, the only reason they dont fight in England is because they all have there own home stadiums.
Melbourne teams are unlucky given there are 10 clubs and they all share two stadiums, yet sydney have two of there own, Brisbane have there own, and Eagles freo share, port and crows share, but they have to travel more
it works out fair in the end.

[The Prototype]

West Coast and Freo won't be sharing for long from what I have heard, apparently there is a 60,000 seat stadium being built there which the Eagles will be moving to.

[Joel]

I thought I heard Freo would be playing there.

[stui magpie]

It's February...they have to sell papers somehow.

We have a winner.

Second place to Richo.

If she was a dog, you'd shave her backside and teach her to walk backwards.

[Didaksgoal]

Take the entirely unfounded criticisms slipped into the restrictive relative clause in the opening sentence of her cheap attack. She places the mischievous adjectives "unusual" and "unhappy" in a restrictive relative clause because this conflates them with the subject noun making it difficult for the reader to consciously isolate them and thereby demonstrate their falsehood. That is, syntactically, our minds are programmed to read the subject noun and restrictive relative clase as a single block, even though the relative clause contains assertions that warrant independent critique:

[ANYONE [who has followed the Magpies' unusual and too often unhappy pre-season]]...

The reader's brain, therefore, is bludgeoned into accepting the assertions embedded in the relative clause as it moves on quickly looking for the verb which it expects to follow the noun group. If our brains allowed us to pause and unpack the propaganda, we would no doubt ask:

"Unusual" on what basis?

On what basis has our season been "too often unhappy?"

And that is merely the first noun group of the first sentence. (The rest of the article does not justify these embedded assertions as the twit of a writer's explicit intention is to demonstrate the contentious but at least overtly expressed if unprovable criticism that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing at our club).

PietillIdie, only Shakespeare could've written something better than that.

I fairdinkum haven't concentrated so hard on someone's post like this ever.

Go the Pies