Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

swoop42 wrote:Looks like Wright is conditioning us to the idea we wont be getting our hands on a 1st round selection for Grundy.

I hope we are paying less than $300,000 a season for such a return.

Looks like that’s it: high second round and less than $300,000

Disappointing return on the second best ruckman in the league, but that’s life. We need to move on now from the period we were paying insane contracts for Grundy, Treloar, Aish, Beams and Phillips. That’s the reason they’re no longer with us, not their playing skills. Henry is just unfortunate he’s not part of the previous regime, or he’d be on 700k a year.

^ agreed, if the previous "brain trust" (i use this term with a heavy sense of sarcasm) had been more hard edged and actually made the call on some of our players instead of signing absurd contracts and kicking the TPP can down the road....we wouldn't have got into this predicament.

Just like if they had made an effort to draft a key forward instead of consistently drafting and over paying in trades for more and more midfielders.

Anyway, we move on, not a bad return on Grundy given it could have been a 3rd rounder that was being talked about at one stage. It is all about the salary cap space we are buying. It is worth as much as picks in this day and age.


Look at Gold Coast, handing over Bowes AND pick.7 for cap space. Their 3 supporters must be outraged.

^ this is it unfortunately. Anyone involved should never be showed back through the doors. And I mean anyone.

And told not to let the door hit their arse on the way out

Every year I never fail to be astonished by how little clubs have to offer on the trade table for quality players nowadays. Even a first-round draft pick (given Melbourne's finishing position, something in the high teens I assume) would be an insult. You'd get a better deal for selling your old car!

Well Carlton signed McKay for seven years. It’s like no one learns a lesson from other clubs

i dunno, aparrently hes taking a pay cut to go, i have a feeling its about attitude as well as cap space

meh, im trusting in McCrae,

at his best yes Grundy makes us so much better....at his best

Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:What's all that about? If he is willing to take a paycut, I wonder there is some truth to him having other issues at the Club?

Posted this back in June; the fire has proven to be smokey and the jungle drums correct in their prognostications

Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:

stui magpie wrote:The Jungle Drums are media speculation. Ratings clickbait.

Cameron and Cox have done wonderfully well, but we are a better team with Grundy in.

I dunno Stui, no smoke without fire!

ah yes someone else said it too!

David wrote:Every year I never fail to be astonished by how little clubs have to offer on the trade table for quality players nowadays. Even a first-round draft pick (given Melbourne's finishing position, something in the high teens I assume) would be an insult. You'd get a better deal for selling your old car!

It’s bizarre, isn’t it? 1st round pick used to be gold. No one wants to put the development years into draft picks and watch them walk with two years still on their contract to another club. Hard work for nothing

Haff wrote:^ this is it unfortunately. Anyone involved should never be showed back through the doors. And I mean anyone.

It is a two way street, yes clubs can be brutal to players...delist them with little to no warning, or trade them, when they expected to be one club players.


Players can be just as cut throat to clubs. Look at Jason Horne-Francis....he has put in 1 year of effort to North, now wants out...yes I get it North probably isn't a great place to play at the moment...but jeez kid, you owe them 2 years at the very least.

my understanding is the strategy requires either a significant pick IF we are paying maximum dollars - the dollars would come down as the pick goes up.
Thats the theory.

Mr Miyagi wrote:Well Carlton signed McKay for seven years. It’s like no one learns a lesson from other clubs

Aye, true, its NOT just us as some here seem to think it is, and isnt Dusty on a massive long term contract, as is Buddy, his went for nine long yrs, and Swans still have not got the flag they wanted with him. McKay is just an average forward at best, in the class of Checkers, really.

derkd wrote:Players can be just as cut throat to clubs. Look at Jason Horne-Francis....he has put in 1 year of effort to North, now wants out...yes I get it North probably isn't a great place to play at the moment...but jeez kid, you owe them 2 years at the very least.

To be fair, Buckley did the same. And I'm not sure a second year before leaving would be that much consolation. It's reasonable to hope to get a decade or more out of a number one pick.

Piesnchess wrote:

Mr Miyagi wrote:Well Carlton signed McKay for seven years. It’s like no one learns a lesson from other clubs

Aye, true, its NOT just us as some here seem to think it is, and isnt Dusty on a massive long term contract, as is Buddy, his went for nine long yrs, and Swans still have not got the flag they wanted with him. McKay is just an average forward at best, in the class of Checkers, really.

A flag was a cherry on the cake for Sydney and buddy deal. It was all about membership sales, bums on seats and merchandise sales... which as Sydney well knows they need the brash 'marketable' player.

The buddy signing, was big money..but has been a stroke of absolute genius by the Swans on a financial front in a NRL market where they needed cut through.