You presume to speak for Eds motives? Very odd....in any case, clearly my opinion is in the minority, as I have prev stated, not sure if any further conversation is of much use on this topicSeptember Zeros wrote:Collingwood Crackerjack wrote:Have already stated frawley's comments were far worse.scoobydoo wrote: Wasn't it Danny Frawley who said the words "I'll hold her under Ed"
What did Eddie say that was sooooooooo offensive?
I believe the comment was "50K if she stays under..."
But if its a matter of debating whether the comments were unseemly, I'll let the statements from the Club, CEO, and Eds apology speak for themselves....not quite sure what u r trying to say? Do u disagree with the above mentioned 3?
If so, fair play, but be explicit
The club, the CEO , shorten , the Richmond footy club and all the other outraged do speak for themselves .....as a bunch of sheep following the popularist trending media driven band wagon.
Ed on the other hand simply had to apologise to make it go away. He's about as sorry as Wilson is hurt......ie not very.
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One of the ironies last night was that Eddie was replaced by a woman sports journalist / host on Fox Footy, Sarah Jones. It turns out that it was the highest rated Thursday night footy broadcast on Fox TV!! (not that the sample is huge)
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... prkyp.html
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No irony that the article is written by Wilson.
I always watch the game on Foxtel rather than on 7 if it's being broadcast on both for a simple reason - no commercials during the game. Suggesting that the ratings increase was due to having a female on the coverage is drawing a very long bow IMO, but if that inference means she gets more air time during footy games, good luck to her.
I always watch the game on Foxtel rather than on 7 if it's being broadcast on both for a simple reason - no commercials during the game. Suggesting that the ratings increase was due to having a female on the coverage is drawing a very long bow IMO, but if that inference means she gets more air time during footy games, good luck to her.
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Nothing at all to do wth two potential flag contenders playing on a Thursday night.stui magpie wrote:No irony that the article is written by Wilson.
I always watch the game on Foxtel rather than on 7 if it's being broadcast on both for a simple reason - no commercials during the game. Suggesting that the ratings increase was due to having a female on the coverage is drawing a very long bow IMO, but if that inference means she gets more air time during footy games, good luck to her.
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No, it's all based on the gender of the presenter!matrix10 wrote:Nothing at all to do wth two potential flag contenders playing on a Thursday night.stui magpie wrote:No irony that the article is written by Wilson.
I always watch the game on Foxtel rather than on 7 if it's being broadcast on both for a simple reason - no commercials during the game. Suggesting that the ratings increase was due to having a female on the coverage is drawing a very long bow IMO, but if that inference means she gets more air time during footy games, good luck to her.
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This 100% this.AN_Inkling wrote:This really is a classic example of how good causes can go bad. Domestic violence against women is a real problem and absolutely abhorrent. The major, and deserved, focus on it has however had the unfortunate effect of calibrating the societal hair trigger for outrage far too sensitively and spreading misinformation by exclusion.
Males are a victim of serious violence more often than women. State this simple fact and most people won't believe you given the shocking and oft repeated stats of violence against women. In what way then is it ok to joke about generalised violence against a man (happens all the time with no outrage. Ed's comments could so easily have been made about Robbo given events this year and no one would have cared), but some sort of mortal sin to do so against a woman? The response to Ed's comments are far more sexist, and intentionally so, than anything he said. The worst of his comments were not about drowning but the "black widow" stuff.
There is no obvious sexism at all. Wilson had written an article critical of Ed and he made some stupid comments in response. Isn't the hurtful article motive enough for the comments, what need is there to bring her gender into it? It is this assumption that I find sexist. And there is no link to domestic violence, none. Murder is serious but we joke about killing all the time, use it as a metaphor in sporting contests even. Though in a similar vein to this week, apparently using "rape" in the same way is completely unacceptable. Clearly it's a much more serious crime than murder as most victims are women, there's that sexism again. Just because domestic violence is serious and a real problem does not mean that even harmless jokes of cartoonish violence need to be treated with the same level of severity, just as the same jokes against men are not.
This type of overheated response will weaken the campaign to end violence against women and drive a wedge between the genders. We don't need ads telling men that it's wrong to kill women either, just like women don't need to be told that babies are people to and shouldn't be killed. This is a serious issue and needs to be treated seriously not used for point scoring by special interest groups, politicians or any other public personage, company or sports club.