Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[stui magpie]

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Is Geelong a Labor or Liberal seat?

Different note, my Interstate truckie cousin got his first 5G upgrade vaccination today. Didn't want to, not happy about it, but did it because he couldn't afford not to work.

Evidence that the mandating vaccs works. I was concerned that it may be a problem but it seems like most are rolling over and getting vaccinated albeit complaining all the way.

[Jezza]

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Is Geelong a Labor or Liberal seat?

Labor.

[stui magpie]

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Obviously a coincidence.

[Dave The Man]

How is Geelong not in lockdown? 10 times the exposure sites of the entire Mornington Peninsula.

God Knows but makes no Sense.

Mornington use to have 2 Council which 1 was probably as Regional Victoria which might been the Hastings 1 but when the 2 Merged it al come Metro Melbourne

[Lazza]

They're pointing out their opinions essentially. The Doherty Institute modelling is fallible, so are they. People will believe whatever bit of data or research that supports their pre existing beliefs.

Disagree. Happy to change my opinion on any subject if my intelligence tells me that that whatever l’m hearing makes perfect logical sense compared to my existing belief. A rare event but it has happened!!

[eddiesmith]

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Is Geelong a Labor or Liberal seat?

Labor.

Includes the Minister for Incompetence's seat so they continue to get special treatment.

Much like last year they were in the top 10 LGAs for Covid cases yet all of Melbourne was under stage 4 restrictions and they were under stage 3 with regional, whilst being the sole reason regional Victoria was kept under tougher restrictions than necessary.

[Pies4shaw]

How is Geelong not in lockdown? 10 times the exposure sites of the entire Mornington Peninsula.

What data are you looking at? There's been one site added in Geelong since Monday and there is no exposure site in Geelong more recent than 9 September.

[What'sinaname]

^ this one

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/case ... sure-sites

The one with the last exposure site on the Mornington Peninsula was September 3.

[Pies4shaw]

So, how does that justify putting Geelong into lockdown? Very curious logic.

[What'sinaname]

^ if you're the only one who can't see it, look within.

[Pies4shaw]

I'm not the only one who can see it. I may be the only one who looked at the data, though, instead of just assuming that what you said had some underlying logic to it.

The number of active cases in Geelong has gone from 12 on 11 September to 13 a week later - which, bearing in mind that Geelong includes the City and a large regional area of small towns, isn't much. It's basically been 2 or 3 new infections - and then their immediate household contacts - in nearly 6 weeks. Greater Shepparton's outbreak reached 127 cases and went from 1 to 22 on the 2nd day. I'm not quite sure why Ballarat has been locked down, looking at its cases - but perhaps they know something that we don't.

If you want to make an argument that the Mornington Peninsula shouldn't be in lockdown, do so. There's nothing about Geelong's numbers so far that warrants it being locked down. At the presser yesterday, it was said that they're watching Geelong closely, so if there were suddenly a bundle of new, unexpected cases, I expect they would lock the place down.

Looking at the numbers by LGA (assuming that's even a valid way of looking at this), one could make a useful case that the only places in metropolitan Melbourne that should be locked down are Hume, Moreland, Wyndham, Whittlesea, Brimbank and Casey, with a question mark over a small number of places with either high total active numbers or, say, 6 or more new cases per day. But, on what we know so far, the idea that Geelong should be locked down makes no sense at all - unless the Government were to decide to lock down the whole of Victoria and go for 0, again.

[Pies4shaw]

In Victoria:

Reported yesterday: 535 new local cases and 0 cases acquired overseas.
- 45,537 vaccines administered
- 61,622 test results received
- Sadly, 1 person with COVID-19 has died

Of the 535 local cases, 62 have so far been linked to known cases and outbreaks. Further case information will be provided this morning.

The R(eff) (down to about 1.16) has had its fifth consecutive daily reduction, so things are working to slow the growth of this in Victoria. It was at 1.64 on 13 September, so that's significant.

[Pies4shaw]

[Dave The Man]

So, how does that justify putting Geelong into lockdown? Very curious logic.

Don't think he Means Geelong should be on Lockdown but why Mornington Peninsula on other side of the Bay is in Lockdown with less Cases and Exposure Sites

[Pies4shaw]

Just a small update on managing the virus in a largely vaccinated population - the UK has nearly 9 times as many cases as on the same day last year and over 10 times as many deaths. The US has over 3 times as many cases and about 2.5 times as many deaths as on the same day last year.