Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[stui magpie]

They're pointing out their opinions essentially. The Doherty Institute modelling is fallible, so are they. People will believe whatever bit of data or research that supports their pre existing beliefs.

Disagree. Happy to change my opinion on any subject if my intelligence tells me that that whatever l’m hearing makes perfect logical sense compared to my existing belief. A rare event but it has happened!!

Fair call, I should have put "most" in front of "people" as some are genuinely capable of taking in new information and varying their opinion, most are not.

[Pies4shaw]

New cases reported in the past month:

NSW 35,227;

Vic 7,697.

By the way, no-one much seems to have picked this up: the Doherty Institute (conformably with the critique of its methodology that I linked previously) has "updated" its model and presented the findings to National Cabinet, yesterday. The nub of it is that:

Given the “observed sensitivity” associated with high seeding infections at the 70% vaccination threshold, [the Doherty Institute] says “the ongoing application of medium public health and social measures” would be “prudent in such cases, at least until the 80% coverage threshold is achieved”.

In its original modelling, “medium” public health and social measures were defined as stringent capacity restrictions, group size limits and stay-at-home orders except for work, study or other essential purposes.

In the new analysis, the Doherty Institute notes that at high caseloads it would be very difficult for governments to maintain optimal testing, tracing, isolation and quarantine practices. There would be a need to maintain flexibility to strengthen public health and social measures either “generally or locally” to regain epidemic control.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... accination

[Pies4shaw]

From The Age's blog:

Beyond Melbourne, in the city of Geelong, locals were also protesting lockdowns, with a small number gathering outside Geelong’s town hall.

Looks like somebody in the Geelong Anti-Read&Write Movement didn't get the memo.

[Dave The Man]

From The Age's blog:

Beyond Melbourne, in the city of Geelong, locals were also protesting lockdowns, with a small number gathering outside Geelong’s town hall.

Looks like somebody in the Geelong Anti-Read&Write Movement didn't get the memo.

Do they want to go back to Lockdown then?

[Dave The Man]

Just a small update on managing the virus in a largely vaccinated population - the UK has nearly 9 times as many cases as on the same day last year and over 10 times as many deaths. The US has over 3 times as many cases and about 2.5 times as many deaths as on the same day last year.

So they not really working going by those Stats then

[What'sinaname]

Just a small update on managing the virus in a largely vaccinated population - the UK has nearly 9 times as many cases as on the same day last year and over 10 times as many deaths. The US has over 3 times as many cases and about 2.5 times as many deaths as on the same day last year.

So they not really working going by those Stats then

No, it doesn't mean that at all. There were 1,200 motor vehicle fatalities in 2019 and 700 in 1925. Does that mean improvements in vehicle safety have been a failure?

Things were different on September 18 2020. UK and US had restrictions. UK hadn't even allowed fans back to football games, and US states still had stay at home orders. Disney resorts were closed or had limits on guests. And of course, 2020 didn't have the delta variant.

I'm not saying temporal comparisons aren't appropriate, but you would want to control for as many variables as possible.

[Pies4shaw]

1,000 deaths in the last week in the UK and over 8,000 in hospital right now. They need some more improvements in "vehicle safety" by the looks of things.

[Dave The Man]

Roadmap Leak:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronaviru ... 6f2fe8d193

[David]

Thanks Dave! Here's a run-down for what's claimed in the article, for those who are paywalled out:

Year 12s due to go back to school on 4 October (most other levels, starting with Prep to Year 2, expected to start going back at some point in October)

Once 70% of over-16s are fully vaccinated (currently forecast to occur on 1 November), travel limits move to 25 kilometres and some hospitality venues can open (possibly outdoor service only)

Most restrictions stay in place until the 80% vaccination target is met (currently forecast for 19 November), with further relaxations set for when we get to 90%.

[eddiesmith]

So basically expect to be extremely disappointed and the target now being moved to the highly unlikely 90% full vaccinated level.

There goes Christmas...

[Dave The Man]

So basically expect to be extremely disappointed and the target now being moved to the highly unlikely 90% full vaccinated level.

There goes Christmas...

Better then Overwhelming the Hospitals and people Dying when they shouldn't have

[think positive]

So basically expect to be extremely disappointed and the target now being moved to the highly unlikely 90% full vaccinated level.

There goes Christmas...

Better then Overwhelming the Hospitals and people Dying when they shouldn't have

SPOT on Dave, ignore Mr poor me!

meanwhile i hope everyone of those pricks assaulting the police today gets a flat tyre, and the flu before the weekend is over, selfish ****

[eddiesmith]

So basically expect to be extremely disappointed and the target now being moved to the highly unlikely 90% full vaccinated level.

There goes Christmas...

Better then Overwhelming the Hospitals and people Dying when they shouldn't have

So it's lockdown forever then? Maybe this government should have better funded the hospitals over the last 22 years and they wouldn't be overwhelmed so easily.

[eddiesmith]

So basically expect to be extremely disappointed and the target now being moved to the highly unlikely 90% full vaccinated level.

There goes Christmas...

Better then Overwhelming the Hospitals and people Dying when they shouldn't have

SPOT on Dave, ignore Mr poor me!

meanwhile i hope everyone of those pricks assaulting the police today gets a flat tyre, and the flu before the weekend is over, selfish ****

I just hope this new physical and anti protest policing style will be used on Invasion Day, BLM, Climate Change, Unions, Extinction Rebellion, Anti Cup day etc protesters as well.

I do find it funny though you get so angry at your anti vax friends yet also are happy to remain in lockdown forever because of them!!!

[What'sinaname]

Thanks Dave! Here's a run-down for what's claimed in the article, for those who are paywalled out:

Year 12s due to go back to school on 4 October (most other levels, starting with Prep to Year 2, expected to start going back at some point in October)

Once 70% of over-16s are fully vaccinated (currently forecast to occur on 1 November), travel limits move to 25 kilometres and some hospitality venues can open (possibly outdoor service only)

Most restrictions stay in place until the 80% vaccination target is met (currently forecast for 19 November), with further relaxations set for when we get to 90%.

70% double is forecast 19 November
80% 12 Dec
90% 4 Jan