Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

King Malta wrote:

jackcass wrote:

RudeBoy wrote:The kid is a great player. He's just what we need....fast, ferocious, fearless and despite what some might say, a generally good user of the ball. I'm glad to say I was on his band wagon 2 years ago and I haven't jumped off. The kid will be a gun.

At least we've had room to spread our wings on the bandwagon Rudey.

I'll get some jackets made up.

slydog81 wrote:

MagpieMad wrote:

E wrote: exection gives me the shits too - whatever that means. sinkers makes fewer clangers than Heath Shaw and is capable of being just as good!

also makes far fewer than Ben Johnson used to too, he became serviceable

You're not saying sinkers is a better kick than Benny J are you??

E wrote:Actually, what this really shows is that Sinclair failed to execute the most basic of 1 per centers - the shepherd!

E wrote:

Tannin wrote:

stui magpie wrote:Overall though, I don't know why we're focusing on one piece of play as it proves nothing either way.

Actually, this is not so.

In fact it proves beyond doubt that Museman - who brought it up in the first place - is a distinguished senior member of the Completely Clueless Club.

Watch:


1: Sinclair takes possession of a hotly-contested ball during a close, hard-fought match.





2: Off-balance, Sinclair handballs immediately to a player in the clear. (Harry.)





3: The ball changes hands as a Swan bears down.





4: Harry sets off on one of his trademark runs, holding the ball above his head to begin with, as he so often does. (Nobody knows why, it's just what Harry does.) At this point, Sinclair has a choice between blocking the Swan to protect Harry (though it's probably too late for this, if you look carefully you can see that the Swan is a pace behind Sinclair and moving fast) or finding space. He does the latter.





5: Sinclair moves into the clear, making space for Harry's return handball. Harry runs into trouble. (Notice Brown directing traffic. Is he telling Harry to watch out, or telling him to pass it back to Sinclair?)





6: And as predictably as night follows day, Harry gets tackled and loses possession. Brown is still telling him what to do with the ball; Sinclair is in the clear waiting for the pass that never comes.




Now you are free to place your own different interpretation on the play and I doubt I'd argue too much about the details of it. Museman's silly claim, however, is comprehensively debunked, and with it any remaining claim he had to what was left of his credibility.

Actually, what this really shows is that Sinclair failed to execute the most basic of 1 per centers - the shepherd! If he had of shepherded the Sydney player he would have bought harry time to take 17 bounces and run into an open goal.

you guys are crapping on about this play. what about the one where he had a poor disposal that meant the ball was basically in jeopardy at the 45 meter line straight in front of the opponents goal. He then skillfully regathered the ball only to handball it behind his teammate who was running away from his player at half back, meaning that the opponent got the ball and pushed it straight back inside 50!

That was his only real clanger of the night.

the one above is just a case of miscommunication. I think sinkers wanted the ball back on the run up the guts and Harry probably thought he was going to get a shepherd. this probably doesn't happen in ten weeks once they start to gel better.

MagpieMad wrote:

slydog81 wrote:

MagpieMad wrote:also makes far fewer than Ben Johnson used to too, he became serviceable

You're not saying sinkers is a better kick than Benny J are you??

same age Sinkers is way better, weren't you here for the NATO years?

slydog81 wrote:Dear lord!

Benny J was top 6 best and fairest in 2002 and 2003

Please stop trying to compare the two.

Collingwood Crackerjack wrote:

E wrote:

Tannin wrote: Actually, this is not so.

In fact it proves beyond doubt that Museman - who brought it up in the first place - is a distinguished senior member of the Completely Clueless Club.

Watch:


1: Sinclair takes possession of a hotly-contested ball during a close, hard-fought match.





2: Off-balance, Sinclair handballs immediately to a player in the clear. (Harry.)





3: The ball changes hands as a Swan bears down.





4: Harry sets off on one of his trademark runs, holding the ball above his head to begin with, as he so often does. (Nobody knows why, it's just what Harry does.) At this point, Sinclair has a choice between blocking the Swan to protect Harry (though it's probably too late for this, if you look carefully you can see that the Swan is a pace behind Sinclair and moving fast) or finding space. He does the latter.





5: Sinclair moves into the clear, making space for Harry's return handball. Harry runs into trouble. (Notice Brown directing traffic. Is he telling Harry to watch out, or telling him to pass it back to Sinclair?)





6: And as predictably as night follows day, Harry gets tackled and loses possession. Brown is still telling him what to do with the ball; Sinclair is in the clear waiting for the pass that never comes.




Now you are free to place your own different interpretation on the play and I doubt I'd argue too much about the details of it. Museman's silly claim, however, is comprehensively debunked, and with it any remaining claim he had to what was left of his credibility.

Actually, what this really shows is that Sinclair failed to execute the most basic of 1 per centers - the shepherd! If he had of shepherded the Sydney player he would have bought harry time to take 17 bounces and run into an open goal.

you guys are crapping on about this play. what about the one where he had a poor disposal that meant the ball was basically in jeopardy at the 45 meter line straight in front of the opponents goal. He then skillfully regathered the ball only to handball it behind his teammate who was running away from his player at half back, meaning that the opponent got the ball and pushed it straight back inside 50!

That was his only real clanger of the night.

the one above is just a case of miscommunication. I think sinkers wanted the ball back on the run up the guts and Harry probably thought he was going to get a shepherd. this probably doesn't happen in ten weeks once they start to gel better.

Yep, that's the play I thought was in question.

King Malta wrote:At this point you'd have to think Sinkers, Seeds and Marley all slot straight into this backline.

We'd look a lot better with those 3.

Jezza wrote:

King Malta wrote:At this point you'd have to think Sinkers, Seeds and Marley all slot straight into this backline.

We'd look a lot better with those 3.

Totally agree. We're a better side with all three players in the senior side.

E wrote:

Jezza wrote:

King Malta wrote:At this point you'd have to think Sinkers, Seeds and Marley all slot straight into this backline.

We'd look a lot better with those 3.

Totally agree. We're a better side with all three players in the senior side.

I think 2 for sure as they are better options than Faz and Young. Not sure who else the third one forces out. Not toovey. not Frost, not keefe, not Maxy. Brown might force keefe out, but not the three little guys. Kind of a moot point, since its unlikely all three will ever be available for selection at the same time in the foreseeable future.