Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Pies4shaw]

In Victoria:

Reported yesterday: 733 new local cases and 0 cases acquired overseas.
- 41,029 vaccines administered
- 56,520 test results received
- Sadly, 1 person with COVID-19 has died

[Dave The Man]

Arguements you’ll never need, Yup sounds like a reliable source

Just the Usual Shit people who have no Idea would say

[Pies4shaw]

[stui magpie]

So, Victoria has 733 cases from 56520 tests, that's a positive rate of 1.29%.

NSW has 1043 cases from 131,668 tests, that's a positive rate of 0.79%.

If you increased the number of tests in Victoria to the same as NSW but kept the current Vic positive test rate, that would be 1,698 cases.

[roar]

'In the same breath' doco if you want to see what happens when the hospital system fails, you won't ever complain about Dan again

You realise Dan is partly to blame for the underfunded health system, don't you?

[Pies4shaw]

Stui, that's a bit spurious - people get tested because they have symptoms or might have been a contact. Eg, if you just extended the proportion to 25 million tests, that would mean 322,500 cases but that plainly isn't happening. I think we all know they're not missing too many cases in NSW or Victoria.

[stui magpie]

It's not spurious, it's an observation and I do believe Vic is missing a number of cases. Just look at the bloke attending the protest march one day in hospital the next.

I do agree that it's not a straight linear comparison, if you massively increased testing in Victoria, the positive % would no doubt go down, but also no doubt the number of cases would go up.

[Pies4shaw]

If the positive percentage was much higher, I'd agree that it would be significant but it's still only about 1 in every 78 people fronting up that tests positive. These are still fairly trivial numbers, in the scheme of things. NSW's positive test rate was exactly the same on 6 September and it didn't stop them putting the brakes on their outbreak.

[eddiesmith]

'In the same breath' doco if you want to see what happens when the hospital system fails, you won't ever complain about Dan again

You realise Dan is partly to blame for the underfunded health system, don't you?

Nonsense! When Dan was health minister for 4 years it was not his fault nothing happened, whilst Dan has been premier for 7 years he has been powerless to do anything.

It’s all the fault of Jeff Kennett last century, there was nothing the Labor party could have done in the last 22 years to make it better!!!

[stui magpie]

'In the same breath' doco if you want to see what happens when the hospital system fails, you won't ever complain about Dan again

You realise Dan is partly to blame for the underfunded health system, don't you?

More than partly, the state government controls the public health system. They get funding from the commonwealth via distribution of GST, yes, but also have their own revenue streams such as payroll tax and stamp duty. State governments run them, not the commonwealth. States decide how they are structured and set measures and targets, not the commonwealth.

Victoria has spent Billions on capital infrastructure works, mostly over budget and time, if the public health system is in a parlous state here, as it is in WA, that sits squarely with the state government.

The WA premier boasts of his budget surplus, funded by mining, yet the public health system there is buggered. That is not the fault of the Commonwealth.

[Pies4shaw]

In Victoria:

Reported yesterday: 847 new local cases and 0 cases acquired overseas.
- 37,220 vaccines administered
- 59,342 test results received
- Sadly, 1 person with COVID-19 has died

[pietillidie]

One for you avid Covid watchers:

‘A bit of a mystery’: why England Covid cases are going down despite easing of restrictions

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... strictions

[Pies4shaw]

Just a cautionary word about where Victoria's numbers may be heading.

NSW first hit 900 cases per day on 25 August 2021. Since it first reached that number (and before it reports the new case number for yesterday), that state has recorded a total of more than 37,000 new cases. At the moment, Victoria has had a total of under 12,000 new cases since 12 July, when the present Victorian outbreak began. NSW has had a total of about 51,500 cases since its present outbreak began (according to the NSW Government, that was 15 June 2021 - although I don't think it matters much what start date you take because numbers there were trivial between Anzac Day and the end of June).

So, whatever the detail is, it is reasonable to anticipate that Victoria will have at least 30,000 to 40,000 new cases in the next month.

Keep vaccinating, folks.

[Pies4shaw]

From NSW Health twitter:

NSW recorded 1,007 new locally acquired cases of #COVID19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night. ... The total number of cases in NSW since the beginning of the pandemic is 57,794.

Sadly, NSW Health is today reporting the deaths of eleven people with COVID-19 - ten men and one woman. ... There have been 288 COVID-19 related deaths in NSW since 16 June 2021 and 344 in total since the start of the pandemic.

There have been 52,143 locally acquired cases reported since 16 June 2021, when the first case in this outbreak was reported.

There are currently 1,187 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 229 people in intensive care, 118 of whom require ventilation.

There were 108,105 COVID-19 tests reported to 8pm last night, compared with the previous day’s total of 131,668.

[stui magpie]

1007 cases from 108,105 tests for NSW, infection rate 0.93%

847 cases from 59,342 tests for Vic, infection rate 1.42%