Post Match. Pies tie Crows - All comments please

[Adam Treloar 3 Votes]

Not surprisingly all of the anti Wells recruitment brigade are keeping a very low profile after that masterclass. Having had the year to adjust to new game plan and teammates he could be anything for us next year.

[piedys]

I would have taken a draw at the start of the game without a doubt. After we kicked the first 2 goals of the 3rd qtr to lead by 50 points I knew we would piss it away, that it was only a matter of time? Why? Because in the first half the opposition was soft and pathetic and did not pay us any respect, it allowed us to do as we pleased in order to build that lead. As soon as Adelaide woke up and started taking the game on I knew we would cave in. When an opposition comes at us hard we are like a dear stuck in headlights. It has happened many time this season, Bombers, Power, Demons, Giants, maybe one or two others.

The Crows just steamrolled through the middle of the ground unopposed. I feel like we are mostly just our own worst enemy. The errors we make that result directly in opposition goals is quite staggering. Didn't help with Adelaide being so accurate either. Imagine if we could just improve our ball use and restrict the number of fast breaks we allow, how much that would help. Sounds simple doesn't it? But, it just isn't happening.

Never should have lost that game from 50 up. That should just never happen. We have no gears as such, it is either flat out or reverse. We don't know how to play the tempo game. We get 50 up, the Crows start to get going but we still try to play helter skelter. How about spending a couple of minutes holding onto the ball and cooling the tempo down, take the sting out of the opposition who are breathing fire. Oh no, not this lot, still trying to go 100mph. We need to find different levels of play and really smarten up. Learn how to control temp and control the direction of a game, until we do we will continue to allow leads to slip over and over again.

Matt, in relation to tempo control - surely that would only manifest in more kicking backwards, which we did to excess earlier in the season and ultimately we just bled and bled turnovers and goals?
No, I'd rather we go hammer and tongs to get the ball inside 50 to try and eek out more goals, than try to over possess the ball; we simply haven't the ball skills to execute that. And certainly not against a team with elite disposal like the crows; they didn't miss many targets by foot....

[Monco Matt]

Does anyone else think it is a tad concerning that even though we are 50 points up in the 3rd that the opposition still thinks it can beat us? Not a lot of respect there. I would think that if the Crows were down by 50 points to the Hawks or Cats on the MCG they would have raised that white flag. Hell, even the Dees would have been too much.

[Piesnchess]

Our kids will LEARN a lot from today, sometimes, you learn more from games you DONT win, the lessons they serve, than actual wins themselves.

So what exactly is the lesson here? It is lost on me, for one...
Please don't try to sugar coat this debacle with cliches - what is there to learn?

This coach cannot learn; he must be removed.

Theres huge lessons to be learnt, how to man up better downback when the Opposition is relentlessly attacking, how to react when under huge pressure, how to respond to comebacks, how not to panic, how to slow down the general trend of play, and then re load. Its not rocket science, our kids will learn a lot from today I reckon, anyway.

[Damien]

I'm just saddened by some of the drivel on this site. We played some awesome footy today. We're missing finals cos we ain't quite there yet, but gee we're mighty close.

[Harrysz]

... and another thing... did anyone notice Levi Greenwood today? Has he been mentioned in this post? He played Rory someone or other; he's not a bad player that Rory.

[mudlark]

Honestly a few people here should take their blinkers off. It was a wonderful game of football played in great spirit. Congratulations to Adelaide for coming back from 50 points behind. We didn't choke but we gave away a few unnecessary goals which was the difference between a win and a draw. Hopefully we learn from this and become a better side.

I don't mind the draw. I don't mind losing the odd game or two. What I do mind is some of the drivel we dished up to the supporters this season. The Port Adelaide game, the St Kilda game, the Carlton game and the Essendon game. That was drivel. Today was a great effort by the team which we almost pulled off. Sadly not to be but we should all be proud of the team.

Well said. Honestly some on here are seriously prone to histrionics . I never thought we'd get that close today . What I saw was a side (undermanned somewhat) trying its guts out . Adelaide were always going to cone back at us...hard . I saw team sitting on top of the ladder playing a team sitting 13th. They tried but failed against probable premiers

What an absolute crock. I said to anyone who wanted to listen we would BEAT Adelaide and put my hard earned on them at Avery juicy $3.60 and although being 50 points up was not in the plan,Iit is my opinion that Adelaide are flat track bullies who don't like the hard stuff which we proved today.In the end it wasn't Adelaide who beat us ,it was Collingwood ,with it's insipid play at times and a fair smattering of unbelievably bad and biased umpiring cost us the game. We drew but every other person on the planet will feel as if the Colliwobbles resurfaced today and we will be the laughing stock of the AFL for another year.Pride is a word you should choose very carefully and today is not the time to use it I feel.

[Pies4shaw]

Not surprisingly all of the anti Wells recruitment brigade are keeping a very low profile after that masterclass. Having had the year to adjust to new game plan and teammates he could be anything for us next year.

Provided he doesn't need a hip replacement

[Piesnchess]

Does anyone else think it is a tad concerning that even though we are 50 points up in the 3rd that the opposition still thinks it can beat us? Not a lot of respect there. I would think that if the Crows were down by 50 points to the Hawks or Cats on the MCG they would have raised that white flag. Hell, even the Dees would have been too much.

Think you underestimate the fighting qualities of the Crows, they are not top of the heap for nothing.

[Monco Matt]

I would have taken a draw at the start of the game without a doubt. After we kicked the first 2 goals of the 3rd qtr to lead by 50 points I knew we would piss it away, that it was only a matter of time? Why? Because in the first half the opposition was soft and pathetic and did not pay us any respect, it allowed us to do as we pleased in order to build that lead. As soon as Adelaide woke up and started taking the game on I knew we would cave in. When an opposition comes at us hard we are like a dear stuck in headlights. It has happened many time this season, Bombers, Power, Demons, Giants, maybe one or two others.

The Crows just steamrolled through the middle of the ground unopposed. I feel like we are mostly just our own worst enemy. The errors we make that result directly in opposition goals is quite staggering. Didn't help with Adelaide being so accurate either. Imagine if we could just improve our ball use and restrict the number of fast breaks we allow, how much that would help. Sounds simple doesn't it? But, it just isn't happening.

Never should have lost that game from 50 up. That should just never happen. We have no gears as such, it is either flat out or reverse. We don't know how to play the tempo game. We get 50 up, the Crows start to get going but we still try to play helter skelter. How about spending a couple of minutes holding onto the ball and cooling the tempo down, take the sting out of the opposition who are breathing fire. Oh no, not this lot, still trying to go 100mph. We need to find different levels of play and really smarten up. Learn how to control temp and control the direction of a game, until we do we will continue to allow leads to slip over and over again.

Matt, in relation to tempo control - surely that would only manifest in more kicking backwards, which we did to excess earlier in the season and ultimately we just bled and bled turnovers and goals?
No, I'd rather we go hammer and tongs to get the ball inside 50 to try and eek out more goals, than try to over possess the ball; we simply haven't the ball skills to execute that. And certainly not against a team with elite disposal like the crows; they didn't miss many targets by foot....

By tempo I'm not referring to chipping sideways and backwards for a couple of minutes, but to hold the ball for 10 seconds and chip it forward 15m and hold the ball again, then chip it forward another 15m and hold the ball, like the hawks do so well. Just keep it moving forward but hold on to it, don't just blast away all the time and haphazardly keep turning it over. Just be smarter at times.

[HAL]

Not surprisingly all of the anti Wells recruitment brigade are keeping a very low profile after that masterclass. Having had the year to adjust to new game plan and teammates he could be anything for us next year.

Provided he doesn't need a hip replacement

I really couldn't say for sure.

[kymbo5@yahoo.com.au]

I'm just saddened by some of the drivel on this site. We played some awesome footy today. We're missing finals cos we ain't quite there yet, but gee we're mighty close.

Yes indeed.

My 12 year old son just asked me 'Dad are there any Collingwood people on this site" and he wasn't being sarcastic.

[piedys]

Our kids will LEARN a lot from today, sometimes, you learn more from games you DONT win, the lessons they serve, than actual wins themselves.

So what exactly is the lesson here? It is lost on me, for one...
Please don't try to sugar coat this debacle with cliches - what is there to learn?

This coach cannot learn; he must be removed.

Theres huge lessons to be learnt, how to man up better downback when the Opposition is relentlessly attacking, how to react when under huge pressure, how to respond to comebacks, how not to panic, how to slow down the general trend of play, and then re load. Its not rocket science, our kids will learn a lot from today I reckon, anyway.

Hmmm... very well then. And exactly when do you think we will be sourcing the coaches/assistant capable of relating these lessons to the playing group?

[slangman]

[doriswilgus]

Not surprisingly all of the anti Wells recruitment brigade are keeping a very low profile after that masterclass. Having had the year to adjust to new game plan and teammates he could be anything for us next year.

Amen to that.In a team full of Hine/Buckley plodders,he stands out like a beacon of light.