2020-2021 EPL Discussion Thread

[Jezza]

Weekend Matches:

Saturday September 19 2020:
Everton vs West Bromwich Albion - 12:30
Leeds United vs Fulham - 15:00
Manchester United vs Crystal Palace - 17:30
Arsenal vs West Ham United - 20:00

Sunday September 20 2020:
Southampton vs Tottenham Hotspur - 12:00
Newcastle United vs Brighton & Hove Albion - 14:00
Chelsea vs Liverpool - 16:30
Leicester City vs Burnley - 19:00

Monday September 21 2020:
Aston Villa vs Sheffield United - 18:00
Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Manchester City - 20:15

All local times.

[K]

Another 7-goal game from Leeds United! This time they beat Fulham 4-3.

And 7 goals in Everton's 5-2 win over West Brom. Everton were helped by West Brom playing a half a man down.

Crystal Palace took down Man United 3-1.

[K]

"West Ham United manager David Moyes and players Issa Diop and Josh Cullen have returned positive tests for COVID-19, the Premier League club said on Tuesday."

(Reuters)

[Jezza]

Weekend Results:

Saturday September 19 2020:
Everton 5-2 West Bromwich Albion
Leeds United 4-3 Fulham
Manchester United 1-3 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 2-1 West Ham United

Sunday September 20 2020:
Southampton 2-5 Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United 0-3 Brighton & Hove Albion
Chelsea 0-2 Liverpool
Leicester City 4-2 Burnley

Monday September 21 2020:
Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United
Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Manchester City

The Ladder:
1. Leicester 6 - Played 2
2. Everton 6 - Played 2
3. Arsenal 6 - Played 2
4. Liverpool 6 - Played 2
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5. Crystal Palace 6 - Played 2
6. Tottenham 3 - Played 2
7. Man City 3 - Played 1
8. Brighton 3 - Played 2
9. Aston Villa 3 - Played 1
10. Leeds 3 - Played 2
11. Chelsea 3 - Played 2
12. Wolves 3 - Played 2
13. Newcastle 3 - Played 2
14. Burnley 0 - Played 1
15. Man Utd 0 - Played 1
16. West Ham 0 - Played 2
17. Sheffield United 0 - Played 2
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18. Fulham 0 - Played 2
19. Southampton 0 - Played 2
20. West Brom 0 - Played 2

[Jezza]

Weekend Matches:

Saturday September 26 2020:
Brighton & Hove Albion vs Manchester United - 12:30
Crystal Palace vs Everton - 15:00
West Bromwich Albion vs Chelsea - 17:30
Burnley vs Southampton - 20:00

Sunday September 27 2020:
Sheffield United vs Leeds United - 12:00
Tottenham Hotspur vs Newcastle United - 14:00
Manchester City vs Leicester City - 16:30
West Ham United vs Wolverhampton Wanderers - 19:00

Monday September 28 2020:
Fulham vs Aston Villa - 17:45
Liverpool vs Arsenal - 20:00

All local times.

[K]

The whole handball controversy reignites, after a game-changing penalty. It's funny a rule as fundamental as this is causing so many problems.

You can't exactly expect defenders to have their arms tied behind their backs.

[Presti35]

Newcastle with some highway robbery there

[K]

Leicester smashed Man. City, with Vardy scoring a hat trick.

Are Man. City in decline?

[Jezza]

Leicester smashed Man. City, with Vardy scoring a hat trick.

Are Man. City in decline?

Seems that way. They lost 9 matches last season, after having only lost 12 in their first three seasons under Pep (2016/2017, 2017/2018 and 2018/2019).

Defensive frailties are a recurring theme for Pep. He's spent a fortune on defenders, but hasn't solved the problem.

[K]

Maybe it's worth seeing how many goals they are conceding in their losses. Vardy torched them in this game.

Meanwhile, Klopp was offended that Liverpool's defence was called "sloppy". They seem to be conceding a few goals too, but they are still winning.

[Jezza]

Weekend Results:

Saturday September 26 2020:
Brighton & Hove Albion 2-3 Manchester United
Crystal Palace 1-2 Everton
West Bromwich Albion 3-3 Chelsea
Burnley 0-1 Southampton

Sunday September 27 2020:
Sheffield United 0-1 Leeds United
Tottenham Hotspur 1-1 Newcastle United
Manchester City 2-5 Leicester City
West Ham United 4-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers

Monday September 28 2020:
Fulham 0-3 Aston Villa
Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal

The Ladder:
1. Leicester 9 - Played 3
2. Liverpool 9 - Played 3
3. Everton 9 - Played 3
4. Aston Villa 6 - Played 2
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5. Arsenal 6 - Played 3
6. Crystal Palace 6 - Played 3
7. Leeds 6 - Played 3
8. Tottenham 4 - Played 3
9. Chelsea 4 - Played 3
10. Newcastle 4 - Played 3
11. West Ham 3 - Played 3
12. Brighton 3 - Played 3
13. Man City 3 - Played 2
14. Man Utd 3 - Played 2
15. Southampton 3 - Played 3
16. Wolves 3 - Played 3
17. West Brom 1 - Played 3
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18. Burnley 0 - Played 2
19. Sheffield Utd 0 - Played 2
20. Fulham 0 - Played 3

[Jezza]

Maybe it's worth seeing how many goals they are conceding in their losses. Vardy torched them in this game.

Manchester City PL losses under Pep:

2016/2017
1. Tottenham Hotspur 2-0 Manchester City = 2/10/2016
2. Manchester City 1-3 Chelsea = 3/12/2016
3. Leicester City 4-2 Manchester City = 10/12/2016
4. Liverpool 1-0 Manchester City = 31/12/2016
5. Everton 4-0 Manchester City = 15/01/2017
6. Chelsea 2-1 Manchester City = 5/04/2017

Conceded 16 goals in their 6 losses = average 2.67 per match

Finished 3rd (78 points) and conceded 39 goals for the season.

2017/2018
1. Liverpool 4-3 Manchester City = 14/01/2018
2. Manchester City 2-3 Manchester United = 7/04/2018

Conceded 7 goals in their 2 losses = average 3.50 per match

Finished 1st (100 points) and conceded 27 goals for the season.

2018/2019
1. Chelsea 2-0 Manchester City = 8/12/2018
2. Manchester City 2-3 Crystal Palace = 22/12/2018
3. Leicester City 2-1 Manchester City = 26/12/2018
4. Newcastle United 2-1 Manchester City = 29/01/2019

Conceded 9 goals in their 4 losses = average 2.25 per match

Finished 1st (98 points) and conceded 23 goals for the season.

2019/2020
1. Norwich City 3-2 Manchester City = 14/09/2019
2. Manchester City 0-2 Wolves = 6/10/2019
3. Liverpool 3-1 Manchester City = 10/11/2019
4. Manchester City 1-2 Manchester United = 7/12/2019
5. Wolves 3-2 Manchester City = 27/12/2019
6. Tottenham Hotspur 2-0 Manchester City = 2/02/2020
7. Manchester United 2-0 Manchester City = 8/03/2020
8. Chelsea 2-1 Manchester City = 25/06/2020
9. Southampton 1-0 Manchester City = 5/07/2020

Conceded 20 goals in their 9 losses = average 2.22 per match

Finished 2nd (81 points) and conceded 35 goals for the season.

2020/2021
1. Manchester City 2-5 Leicester City = 27/09/2020

Sunday's defeat was the most goals conceded by City-led Pep team in the Premier League over his entire reign as coach.

[Jezza]

Weekend Matches:

Saturday October 3 2020:
Chelsea vs Crystal Palace - 12:30
Everton vs Brighton & Hove Albion - 15:00
Leeds United vs Manchester City - 17:30
Newcastle United vs Burnley - 20:00

Sunday October 4 2020:
Leicester City vs West Ham United - 12:00
Southampton vs West Bromwich Albion - 12:00
Arsenal vs Sheffield United - 14:00
Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Fulham - 14:00
Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur - 16:30
Aston Villa vs Liverpool - 19:15

All local times.

[K]

...
2019/2020
1. Norwich City 3-2 Manchester City = 14/09/2019
2. Manchester City 0-2 Wolves = 6/10/2019
3. Liverpool 3-1 Manchester City = 10/11/2019
4. Manchester City 1-2 Manchester United = 7/12/2019
5. Wolves 3-2 Manchester City = 27/12/2019
6. Tottenham Hotspur 2-0 Manchester City = 2/02/2020
7. Manchester United 2-0 Manchester City = 8/03/2020
8. Chelsea 2-1 Manchester City = 25/06/2020
9. Southampton 1-0 Manchester City = 5/07/2020

Conceded 20 goals in their 9 losses = average 2.22 per match
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2020/2021
1. Manchester City 2-5 Leicester City = 27/09/2020

Sunday's defeat was the most goals conceded by City-led Pep team in the Premier League over his entire reign as coach.

Thanks for that list.

And now Man. City have been held to a 1-1 draw by Leeds.

Leeds are already shaping as an interesting side to watch this season. Liverpool are now favourites for the title. Will Man. City's odds blow out more? There's still a huge gap in the odds to the rest of the field, though. I'm not sure if it's yet time to back Liverpool.

[Jezza]

^ No worries.

Leeds have had a bright start. They also nearly got a result from their opening day match against Liverpool.