The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

[Rd10.1998_11.1#36]

^ Join date: June 4

Don't even have the balls to put your name to it

[Lone Ranger]

^^Geoff Hayward is a new recruit after all

[think positive]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mag ... 57xw1.html

For those who missed it, this is where Browne goes as close as he's going to, to outline his position.

The 3 board members he'd keep, the role of members and why he's challenging.

I dropped from Legends to a season ticket this year so I don't get a vote any more (I've always had good timing like that) but I'd be voting for Browne and hoping that some of the current board could be convinced to stay.

good read ta, yep me too, i get a vote, here is what Jodie said, (and for me, well call her bluff, no one like ultimatums, and no one is irreplaceable!)

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2021-co ... 21191.html

[masoncox]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mag ... 57xw1.html

For those who missed it, this is where Browne goes as close as he's going to, to outline his position.

The 3 board members he'd keep, the role of members and why he's challenging.

I dropped from Legends to a season ticket this year so I don't get a vote any more (I've always had good timing like that) but I'd be voting for Browne and hoping that some of the current board could be convinced to stay.

good read ta, yep me too, i get a vote, here is what Jodie said, (and for me, well call her bluff, no one like ultimatums, and no one is irreplaceable!)

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2021-co ... 21191.html

She was onboard when the salary cap debacle happened last November.
No responsibility.
Just the usual bluff and huff.
It is a footy club and not a major corporation.
FFS get back to basics.

[slangman]

Whether enough members approve of Browne or not. The best thing that could happen to Collingwood is an EGM.

All board and in turn administration positions at the club need to be examined. The same goes for Buckley and his assistants.

From the incompetent post office worker to the bulldogs fan slid into to help with equity / diversity or whatever trend Collingwoke has decided to worry about next, change is needed.

Collingwood should not be social experiment and too many board members and positions are being allocated with this in mind.
Collingwood is a FOOTBALL CLUB FIRST. The AFLW, the Netball teams, social causes, whilst important, are NOTHING without the men's team.


No other sporting club in the world to my knowledge has labelled itself Systemically racist. A vile term that the club itself does not even understand having debated this with the club.
Instead of an impressive focused pre season, the club decided to write a report.
A woefully written report which concluded it was systemically racist. This disgusting and degrading term, has forever stained Collingwood and will follow the club in the coming decade and see the club fork out millions.
This term is branded on each Collingwood fan now.
No other AFL club has had such disdain for past and present fans and past players ( such as Lee Adamson) in this action.

The crowds are low this season not just because we are playing defensive football, not winning games and in the midst of a pandemic.
But also, many fans are tired of the media hype, the BS stories, the racism claims, the sexual assault claims, the endless Collingwood bashing and the clubs constant own bashing. I know of a dozen die hard fans who have drifted away from the club like never before.

The finances may be good at present, but they will not be in the future whilst the club shows little respect for its fast dwindling fan base.

The club needs to have greater influence from the fans, before they disappear for good. Ticking boxes to meet KPI's on diversity, equality and please the media hounds will not win football matches.

The club needs to be run by those who love the club and not those looking to improve their CV.

Although you have just joined, I agree wholeheartedly with most of you post.
As a social club member ( along with four other friends with voting rights) we have NEVER felt so disillusioned with the club as we do know.
We actually discussed the possibility of boycotting the Geelong game after attending a Presidents Lunch and watching in utter disbelief at the cringeworthy BS coming from the president.
We then finished off the afternoon sitting in shock at another listless performance from a team and club literally going nowhere.

We’ve sat through the Shaw years, Mid 2000’s and even Buckley’s early years without missing a game. Always looking forward to the next match with optimism and a sense of hope that we could get a win if a few thing went our way.
But not now. This feels different than the previous tough and dour times.
Maybe its the unelected self serving board, maybe its Buckley or the players or both. Maybe its Eddie, Joffa, Walsh, Guy. Hell, maybe its the lasting legacy that Pert left behind.
Whatever it is, the club requires an overhaul of its purpose and its image.
I and other members that I know will vote for Browne and Co. Not that we think that he will be the messiah, but because the current crop (except for Wilson and O’Donnell) were a big part of how we got to this point.

[Cam]

We stopped being a football club first back in the early 2000s when we bought pubs etc. We are a money making machine, encouraged and abetted by the AFL. Literally the Collingwood franchise.

Football is just the product that is sold. That's why you have a board of directors, we are a company not a small town sporting club. Talking about boards in old skool football terms is just not applicable.

We don't need ex-footballers on our board unless they are excellent as business people, that's just the nature of the beast, like it or hate it. That's what you need to be a successful club. After that, the football department has to be the best you can get so you can get the Ws... but that's separate. Do you want a president who interferes in the footy side because they feel they know what they are talking about, that they know better because they are smart, like Eddie? How we have hated his gaffes, his Gubby Allan fling.

The more separate the president is from the football department, the safer I will feel to be honest. In saying that, I have no skin in the game and don't care who wins as long as we start to.

[scoobydoo]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/mag ... 57xw1.html

For those who missed it, this is where Browne goes as close as he's going to, to outline his position.

The 3 board members he'd keep, the role of members and why he's challenging.

I dropped from Legends to a season ticket this year so I don't get a vote any more (I've always had good timing like that) but I'd be voting for Browne and hoping that some of the current board could be convinced to stay.

good read ta, yep me too, i get a vote, here is what Jodie said, (and for me, well call her bluff, no one like ultimatums, and no one is irreplaceable!)

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2021-co ... 21191.html

Over the next years you will come to realize that there is one person that was irreplaceable. No one will ever come close to Ed.
If people think Ed can be replaced by someone as good/passionate your horribly wrong. We will have good presidents in the future but no one like Ed.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Just on the point of systematic racism at the club, it’s a side issue that has nothing to do with the challenge of the board. None of the candidates are going to ditch the Do Better report, nor should they. There was nothing wrong with the Do Better report. As a club we just have to wear the criticism of racism leveled against the club and move on from it. We know we’re no worse or better than any other AFL club. Put in systems and processes so no one can lay any criticisms against us again. That’s the point. Not who said what in the past and how true or false any of it was (the more you deny something the more it sticks - that’s human nature).

[What'sinaname]

Over the next years you will come to realize that there is one person that was irreplaceable. No one will ever come close to Ed.
If people think Ed can be replaced by someone as good/passionate your horribly wrong. We will have good presidents in the future but no one like Ed.

Ed's success is also his failure.

The inability to create an enduring culture of success. If success can only occur under his dictatorship-style regime, then it was always destined to fail at some point. I am shocked how quickly the club has collapsed into anarchy.

You think this shows how good Ed was. I think the exact opposite.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Over the next years you will come to realize that there is one person that was irreplaceable. No one will ever come close to Ed.
If people think Ed can be replaced by someone as good/passionate your horribly wrong. We will have good presidents in the future but no one like Ed.

Ed's success is also his failure.

The inability to create an enduring culture of success. If success can only occur under his dictatorship-style regime, then it was always destined to fail at some point. I am shocked how quickly the club has collapsed into anarchy.

You think this shows how good Ed was. I think the exact opposite.

If Eddie had left around 2013 -2014 his legacy would be appreciated so much better. Everybody has faults. His was that he hated dissention so much that he stifled the democratic processes that should have been happening at the club. When you do that you become bigger than the club itself. To his credit he owned up to his mistakes and wasn’t so dictatorial that he wouldn’t accept censure from the board. As any human being you weigh his positives from his negatives. He’ll always be remembered as the person who rescued Collingwood on it’s knees, taking it to a flag in 2010 and making the club financially secure for many years to come.

[masoncox]

For those who missed it, this is where Browne goes as close as he's going to, to outline his position.

The 3 board members he'd keep, the role of members and why he's challenging.

I dropped from Legends to a season ticket this year so I don't get a vote any more (I've always had good timing like that) but I'd be voting for Browne and hoping that some of the current board could be convinced to stay.

good read ta, yep me too, i get a vote, here is what Jodie said, (and for me, well call her bluff, no one like ultimatums, and no one is irreplaceable!)

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2021-co ... 21191.html

Over the next years you will come to realize that there is one person that was irreplaceable. No one will ever come close to Ed.
If people think Ed can be replaced by someone as good/passionate your horribly wrong. We will have good presidents in the future but no one like Ed.

Ed signed off on contracts that were excessive.
A junior high school kid could of done a better jobs of the maths involved.
He interfered in getting Beams back...what a disaster.
He sacked a premiership coach and then appointed his mate.
He was a big mouth and was lampooned by the media.
Instigated a report about racism at collingwood that did nothing except gave the media a free shot of us.
Worse was his long long stint at being the president that led to hubris and poor judgement.
He stayed too long and he won 1 flag in 20 ,years.
Nothing spectacular.

[think positive]

For those who missed it, this is where Browne goes as close as he's going to, to outline his position.

The 3 board members he'd keep, the role of members and why he's challenging.

I dropped from Legends to a season ticket this year so I don't get a vote any more (I've always had good timing like that) but I'd be voting for Browne and hoping that some of the current board could be convinced to stay.

good read ta, yep me too, i get a vote, here is what Jodie said, (and for me, well call her bluff, no one like ultimatums, and no one is irreplaceable!)

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2021-co ... 21191.html

Over the next years you will come to realize that there is one person that was irreplaceable. No one will ever come close to Ed.
If people think Ed can be replaced by someone as good/passionate your horribly wrong. We will have good presidents in the future but no one like Ed.

I didn’t want Ed gone, especially not the way it happened. Ive always backed him. Along with heart on the sleeve comes the occasional oopsie, I except that, I live and breathe that!

[think positive]

Over the next years you will come to realize that there is one person that was irreplaceable. No one will ever come close to Ed.
If people think Ed can be replaced by someone as good/passionate your horribly wrong. We will have good presidents in the future but no one like Ed.

Ed's success is also his failure.

The inability to create an enduring culture of success. If success can only occur under his dictatorship-style regime, then it was always destined to fail at some point. I am shocked how quickly the club has collapsed into anarchy.

You think this shows how good Ed was. I think the exact opposite.

As have many before him, Ed lost it all for love!

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

So far only one person has put there name forward to challenge the current board , Jeff Browne.

For years and years we have been repeatedly told/lectured on here and other forums/tv and radio , that numerous people were waiting in the wings willing ready and able to lead the club or get voted onto the board by the members , if only Eddie were not there.

Well now is their chance and what do you know , none of these invisible challengers has even put there head up , and I’m pretty sure that they won’t , is that what we want as a potential strong next leader or potential future board member of the club?

[stoliboy]

Korda has been President since April 2021 and I haven’t heard him articulate what the long term vision for the Club is.

Apart from how “Coups are Bad”.