Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

Dating back to 1994 when the top 8 system was introduced, the minimum number of games required to win in order to finish in the top 4 has ranged from 13 to 17 wins.

Since 2011, the top 4 sides have all won a minimum of 15 games, so I think it's fair to say we need to win at least 15 or 16 games to have a chance.

eureka wrote:5 more wins should do it but in all just keep chalking up the wins keep it going

13 wins? I think it'll take more than that. I think 15 wins for top 4, 16 for 2nd

Some of you may remember the great share tip I gave fellow nicksters back around 2009. NST, the buy in was around 8c from memory. Their price today is $9.46 and they are one of the biggest gold miners in Australia.

Well, these sort of shares don't come around every day, but, there's a sneaky one called Walkabout (WKT) that the tom toms tell me are going to head north a loooong way.

Priced at 30c today

i'm glad no one is talking about percentage.

E wrote:i'm glad no one is talking about percentage.

Too soon. That will be a very important factor in ladder position.
Imagine finishing on the same number of wins as WCE and 2nd is decided by %.

Ours is tracking quite nicely now, 2 big wins v Freo & Melb leading in to the bye weekend, are as critical as the wins.

Jezza wrote:Dating back to 1994 when the top 8 system was introduced, the minimum number of games required to win in order to finish in the top 4 has ranged from 13 to 17 wins.

Since 2011, the top 4 sides have all won a minimum of 15 games, so I think it's fair to say we need to win at least 15 or 16 games to have a chance.

tbaker wrote:...
I think 15 wins for top 4, 16 for 2nd

The forecasts online suggest 12 wins, maybe 11 plus percentage, will get you in the 8, 15 wins will get you in the top 4 and 16 wins will get you a top-2 finish.

Skids, can we bet on this? I haven't seen a market for it.

That story reminded me of a Melbourne Cup Day years ago.

We'd backed this real longshot months earlier on the early markets with Darwin Allsports aka Sportsbet. 1999 LAHAR

Big mob of us watched it down the Greenwood, was so loud, couldn't hear a thing but knew we hadn't won.... or did we

No foxtel back then, lstening on the radio. News comes on and we had dead heated for third in the cup!!!! Bang, it's back on!!

Flick the radio back to the races, Ascot is on.
We picked this thing and I got on the blower. They were so busy with Cup day and I kept getting put on hold, the phone would pick up and I'd try to say this nags name but kept getting $@&^# around for 4 or 5 minutes.

Long story short, the thing I was trying to back... we don't get on. I hang up and it wins.... pays $18 for the win, I was trying to have 50 x 50 on it. We're gutted.... drunk and in the pool, we carry on drinking and partying.

Next day, I think, nah, **** that!

Ring up Darwin Allsports complaints. Turns out, they recorded all calls, evem when you were on hold.
Old mate rings me back, reckons the tapes he just listened to made him laugh harder than he'd ever laughed in his life. He credited my account with $1500 and said have a great day.

This looks like value to me...

Pies 1-39
WCE 40+
Tigers Line (-19.5)

12/1

Skids wrote:... We picked this thing and I got on the blower. They were so busy with Cup day and I kept getting put on hold, the phone would pick up and I'd try to say this nags name but kept getting $%$ed around for 4 or 5 minutes.
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Ring up Darwin Allsports complaints. Turns out, they recorded all calls, even when you were on hold.
Old mate rings me back, reckons the tapes he just listened to made him laugh harder than he'd ever laughed in his life. He credited my account with $1500 and said have a great day.

So they caught both your name and the horse on the recording?

K wrote:

Skids wrote:... We picked this thing and I got on the blower. They were so busy with Cup day and I kept getting put on hold, the phone would pick up and I'd try to say this nags name but kept getting $%$ed around for 4 or 5 minutes.
...

Ring up Darwin Allsports complaints. Turns out, they recorded all calls, even when you were on hold.
Old mate rings me back, reckons the tapes he just listened to made him laugh harder than he'd ever laughed in his life. He credited my account with $1500 and said have a great day.

So they caught both your name and the horse on the recording?

Was all done over the phone then. First thing you said was name and account number. I said the horses name a few times but somehow, each time someone spoke to me, it was the wrong department... sports instead of racing from memory. Each time I was on hold I'd be explaining to my mates what was going on, pretty colourfully too!

K wrote:

Jezza wrote:Dating back to 1994 when the top 8 system was introduced, the minimum number of games required to win in order to finish in the top 4 has ranged from 13 to 17 wins.

Since 2011, the top 4 sides have all won a minimum of 15 games, so I think it's fair to say we need to win at least 15 or 16 games to have a chance.

tbaker wrote:...
I think 15 wins for top 4, 16 for 2nd

The forecasts online suggest 12 wins, maybe 11 plus percentage, will get you in the 8, 15 wins will get you in the top 4 and 16 wins will get you a top-2 finish.

Skids, can we bet on this? I haven't seen a market for it.

There's a market for Top 4. The wiggles look like the value bet to me @ $1.70.

GF Quinella bets

Pies/Cats $5
GWS/Cats $5
GWS/Pies $7
Cats/Tigers $8
Cats/WCE $9
Pies/Tigers $11
Pies/WCE $13
Pies/Lions $34
Pies/Crows $51
Pies/Hawks $81
Pies/Power $126

Ok, just a 2 leg multi on our game.

Pies 1-39/Total over 159 @ $4.75 x $100

3 leg mixed sport - Golden State/ Manly/ Tigers by 1-39 @ $8.75 x $25

K wrote:The handicaps are:
Ade +6, Bris +14, Carl +32, Coll +4, Ess +6, Fre +20, Geel +8, Haw +10, NM +10, Mel +2, Port +14, Rich +0, StK +24, Syd +10, WC +4, WB +20, GC +48, GWS +10

Wouldn't mind being on them now. 5 very winnable games ahead.