#32 Travis Cloke
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No, I think people are wanting to see it, so they have an excuse to take pot shots at Cloke for his poor form, rather than dealing with the actual issue that his poor form was there before the contract crap,Dave The Man wrote:They have said nothing but you can see it and feel it
He might very well leave, but that doesn't mean his issues will be fixed because of it. He showed his frustration for his inability to be anything more than a dunce at times.
He clearly wasn't the only player that had a shocking night.
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I'm not honestly giving a shit about his future, this year is all I care about, and clearly he has issues, whatever they are, they're more than just whether he wants to stay or go.Dave The Man wrote:Cloke does not want to be at Collingwood and If you don't see that then You are seeing something Different then I am
But believe what you want. If he leaves, so what? If he stays, who cares.
Clearly he's to blame for everything wrong with this season.
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eddiesmith wrote:Lot of problems at Collingwood atm, but of course its all because Travis hasnt signed a contract, its extremely rare for him to be out of contract this late in the year, we all know how badly his contract status derailed our season in 2010 where he didnt sign untill trade week, what a bastard!
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Off the field I have no f%&$%#g idea what is going on between his ears, but on the field tonight he was pushed around by Thompson like a waif. He looked timid, inferior and out right disinterested in any second efforts after giving a half arsed first effort. This is very un-Cloke like, not the 2010 or 2011 version that's for sure.
Our delivery to him was atrocious to be fair, so many ankle balls and over the top sky balls, but still, he looked all at sea.
On a more serious note, what's happend to our famous spread of 10+ goal kickers? The goals have dried up. Mids don't push forward enough because they are all trying to defend the ball from coming out all the time. We need Sidey, Pendles, Wellers, Blair, Heater & Jolly all pushing forward to give us some spread. Got to start lowering the eyes and hitting up short targets, holding on to the ball more. We get goal kicking spread it does not matter who kicks them.
Our delivery to him was atrocious to be fair, so many ankle balls and over the top sky balls, but still, he looked all at sea.
On a more serious note, what's happend to our famous spread of 10+ goal kickers? The goals have dried up. Mids don't push forward enough because they are all trying to defend the ball from coming out all the time. We need Sidey, Pendles, Wellers, Blair, Heater & Jolly all pushing forward to give us some spread. Got to start lowering the eyes and hitting up short targets, holding on to the ball more. We get goal kicking spread it does not matter who kicks them.
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My old man reckons he's saving himself for his new club in 2013.
So trying not to batter his body too much, so he can be fit & firing, start a fresh if you will...
Clubs poor form isn't Cloke's fault though. There are a few of them out there that have NFI atm.
Personally, I don't like Buckley, whether the players are feeling the same way, is anyones guess.
So trying not to batter his body too much, so he can be fit & firing, start a fresh if you will...
Clubs poor form isn't Cloke's fault though. There are a few of them out there that have NFI atm.
Personally, I don't like Buckley, whether the players are feeling the same way, is anyones guess.
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If i was Travis I'd be thinking about leaving and joining a club where there are some players who can hit him on the chest and the coach is interested in him being the focal point and not a decoy who tries to drag the best defenders out of the danger zone and take contested marks on the wing where they are wasted
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To a degree yes, but i see the bad form of others directly impacting him. As the saying goes when you pay peanuts you get monkeys.mandy wrote:I don't know if Travis is staying or going, but do people really believe the bad form of half the playing group is directly related to him?
In this case, deliver the ball below the knees in almost every contest you get what you get last night. However, as pointed out to me by others, his work rate doesn't seem there either.
I don't believe it's entirely the fault of the playing group, but I think it can't be discounted and is part of the reason why.