Pre-Match. Pies v. Blues. All comments.
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Haff says it will be a massacre. I don't agree but on form, you'd have to pick Carlton. Someone asked, who has Carlton beaten? Well, they struggled against Richmond and Freo but they still won. Don't forget, in the last 2 years we struggled against some low sides but still found ways to win. Good sides do that.
They beat Brisbane after giving them a 7 goals start and critically they beat the Giants by a fair bit after trailing by 4 goals. They lost to Adelaide by going to sleep in the last 5 minutes and they lost to Geelong. That effort against Geelong was full of merit. Basically Geelong won because of straighter kicking for goal.
So, how does our form measure up to that? Poorly, in my view. The less said about the first 3 games the better. The wins against Brisbane and Port were very good. The game against Hawthorn was awful after half time. And Essendon? I'm not impressed. We would've won that game last year and the year before. In the end we were lucky to win. Kyle Langford who'd already kicked 4 goals missed from right in front.
My biggest worry for this Friday night is the midfield. Pittonet was brilliant against Geelong. Then they have Cripps, Walsh and probably Cerra. We have Cameron and De Goey. Even if JDG lifts for this big game as he often has in the past, he can't do it all on his own. Nick will be there from time to time but he'll be needed elsewhere. Mitchell had a poor game against Essendon but I don't think he'll be dropped.
So if, MacRae can get them up, if we keep up high pressure for most of the game, if JDG, Crisp and Howe find sudden returns to form, if Bobby Hill dazzles everyone with some goals and some good hand offs, if it rains, if if if.....too many iffs there! I don't see how we can win but the bookies think we're a chance so you never know!
They beat Brisbane after giving them a 7 goals start and critically they beat the Giants by a fair bit after trailing by 4 goals. They lost to Adelaide by going to sleep in the last 5 minutes and they lost to Geelong. That effort against Geelong was full of merit. Basically Geelong won because of straighter kicking for goal.
So, how does our form measure up to that? Poorly, in my view. The less said about the first 3 games the better. The wins against Brisbane and Port were very good. The game against Hawthorn was awful after half time. And Essendon? I'm not impressed. We would've won that game last year and the year before. In the end we were lucky to win. Kyle Langford who'd already kicked 4 goals missed from right in front.
My biggest worry for this Friday night is the midfield. Pittonet was brilliant against Geelong. Then they have Cripps, Walsh and probably Cerra. We have Cameron and De Goey. Even if JDG lifts for this big game as he often has in the past, he can't do it all on his own. Nick will be there from time to time but he'll be needed elsewhere. Mitchell had a poor game against Essendon but I don't think he'll be dropped.
So if, MacRae can get them up, if we keep up high pressure for most of the game, if JDG, Crisp and Howe find sudden returns to form, if Bobby Hill dazzles everyone with some goals and some good hand offs, if it rains, if if if.....too many iffs there! I don't see how we can win but the bookies think we're a chance so you never know!
Pittonet is a good ruckman who can also play forward. De Konig is a good ruckman who can also play forward. Darcy Cameron is becoming a good ruckman who can't play forward. Mason Cox is unpredictable. With his height he'd be unbeatable if he had more mongrel in his game.
I think that our forward line can trouble Carlton's defence. That's provided we don't get smashed in the middle.
I think that our forward line can trouble Carlton's defence. That's provided we don't get smashed in the middle.
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Apart from the Cats, we are the only team undefeated in our last 4. That gives me a lot of confidence going into this week's game.
Carlton are beatable on the outside where they don't man up and rely on their inside game to break down the opposition. Against the Crows and the Cats they struggled to defend the loose ball. They came back late against the Cats when they dominated centre clearances - an area we need to lift on Friday night.
Changes for me:
Out - Sidey
In - Macrae (sub)
HH to be promoted to the starting lineup.
Carlton are beatable on the outside where they don't man up and rely on their inside game to break down the opposition. Against the Crows and the Cats they struggled to defend the loose ball. They came back late against the Cats when they dominated centre clearances - an area we need to lift on Friday night.
Changes for me:
Out - Sidey
In - Macrae (sub)
HH to be promoted to the starting lineup.
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I agree 100% with him. If Sidebottom gets a game after his mediocre ANZAC Day performance, I will spew up!Pies4shaw wrote:"There must be changes - out Sidebottom" - you're so transparent.
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Can McRae and the coaching team take to the field to play Carlton? That's the only way we can beat them.DT wrote:Just some food for thought.
Voss went hard against the players post-match. This was an interesting take as Scott clearly outcoached him.
McRae et al are a superior coaching team to Voss. They will need to be as Carlton has a more talented team.
One to watch.
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De Goey's groin injury, even if he plays, means he will be seriously impeded and unable to use his explosive bursts of speed. He may need 2-3 weeks of rest to fully overcome this. He is too important to risk further damaging his groin, so I predict he'll not play.
The Mitchell foot injury, confirms what I thought on the day, that he was subbed off against the Bumbers because he was buggered. He may require a few weeks off to fully recover also.
We have no choice now. Macrae must be reintroduced to the starting 22. I'd also bring back Markov to half back. I'd move Noble to the wing, move Sidey to the forward line, and play McCreery on the ball. Our only hope is that our other mids, in Pendles, Nick Daicos, Crisp, Macrae and Lipinski, all rise to the occasion and play out of their skins.
I hate to admit it, but given Jordy's injury, I expect the scum to win this one. My only wish is that we put up a good fight and don't get clobbered.
The Mitchell foot injury, confirms what I thought on the day, that he was subbed off against the Bumbers because he was buggered. He may require a few weeks off to fully recover also.
We have no choice now. Macrae must be reintroduced to the starting 22. I'd also bring back Markov to half back. I'd move Noble to the wing, move Sidey to the forward line, and play McCreery on the ball. Our only hope is that our other mids, in Pendles, Nick Daicos, Crisp, Macrae and Lipinski, all rise to the occasion and play out of their skins.
I hate to admit it, but given Jordy's injury, I expect the scum to win this one. My only wish is that we put up a good fight and don't get clobbered.