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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:53 pm
by John Wren
Dangles wrote:Maybe we should run a poll about who the most maligned person is at Collingwood out of: Jesse White, Jarryd Blair, Nathan Buckley, Eddie McGuire and Travis Cloke.
tony armstrong would win that poll hands down.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:59 pm
by RudeBoy
John Wren wrote:Dangles wrote:Maybe we should run a poll about who the most maligned person is at Collingwood out of: Jesse White, Jarryd Blair, Nathan Buckley, Eddie McGuire and Travis Cloke.
tony armstrong would win that poll hands down.
Let's not forget 3rds favourite player, Clinton Young.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:06 pm
by John Wren
RudeBoy wrote:John Wren wrote:Dangles wrote:Maybe we should run a poll about who the most maligned person is at Collingwood out of: Jesse White, Jarryd Blair, Nathan Buckley, Eddie McGuire and Travis Cloke.
tony armstrong would win that poll hands down.
Let's not forget 3rds favourite player, Clinton Young.
how does he find time to dedicate to youngy when all his energies still hoping corrie will get a game soon?
the other day, i ran into 3rd's uncle and the uncle mentioned 3rd was mad as a hatter and short of a quid. i said that was what 3rd said about his uncle. we both laughed at the pointlessness of the conversation. cracking stuff.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:26 pm
by 1eye
Where?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:01 pm
by AN_Inkling
John Wren wrote:just watched the replay and there wasn't too much wrong with blair's game. played his role as you'd want him to. elliot's game was more of a concern. he just doesn't seem right.
I suppose the highs aren't quite there for Blair. But if we're being fair about it, he's actually just about the most consistent small forward in the comp. It's a position where dipping below 5 disposals (as Fas did against Richmond) is not uncommon. Blair however rarely drops below 15 or so.
It seems a lot of the criticism is about the position not the player. Not enough goals? Compares well with others around the league. Not enough disposals? Right up there with the best small forwards. Maybe he just needs to be flashier? The one criticism that does hold is, like many small forwards, he doesn't often have an impact in big games. Leon, who was definitely a quality small forward, had the same rap if I remember.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:22 pm
by Mugwump
Yes, great point. It's the hardest position to play on the field, small forward, especially in this age of flooding. The delivery tends to be to the tall forwards, so you're living off crumbs and any kick you get is probably under severe pressure. Blair plays it pretty well, all things considered, and it's hard to think of too many other small forwards who consistently do it better. That's probably why good judges keep picking him.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:56 am
by John Wren
AN_Inkling wrote:John Wren wrote:just watched the replay and there wasn't too much wrong with blair's game. played his role as you'd want him to. elliot's game was more of a concern. he just doesn't seem right.
I suppose the highs aren't quite there for Blair. But if we're being fair about it, he's actually just about the most consistent small forward in the comp. It's a position where dipping below 5 disposals (as Fas did against Richmond) is not uncommon. Blair however rarely drops below 15 or so.
It seems a lot of the criticism is about the position not the player. Not enough goals? Compares well with others around the league. Not enough disposals? Right up there with the best small forwards. Maybe he just needs to be flashier? The one criticism that does hold is, like many small forwards, he doesn't often have an impact in big games. Leon, who was definitely a quality small forward, had the same rap if I remember.
i guess it depends on which forward role he plays. in this day and age, he can possibly be assigned to play a deep forward role, link role, hunter role or a defensive forward that rolls up to support the midfield.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:11 am
by Cuthbert Collingwood
Personally I think Blair must stay:
1/ He's contracted
2/ He's depth
3/ He's a premiership Pie who should be given the benefit of the doubt for at least the term of his contract
4/ His stats aren't really all that bad (sorry climate change deniers but stats do mean something)
Unless he is part of a trade to get Treloar, Aish or Dangerfield to the pies I am happy for him to stay.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:26 am
by E
John Wren wrote:just watched the replay and there wasn't too much wrong with blair's game. played his role as you'd want him to. elliot's game was more of a concern. he just doesn't seem right.
clearly injured. at time, he looked lame.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:30 am
by SwansWay
Blair tries his heart out but he doesn't have many elements to his game. He's a good honest player and unfortunately against the better side with bigger bodies, he get pushed off the footy WAY too easily. Congratulations to him though because for his height and where he came from, he's done a great job. You just can't see him in our best 22 for much longer.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:27 pm
by thompsoc
SwansWay wrote:Blair tries his heart out but he doesn't have many elements to his game. He's a good honest player and unfortunately against the better side with bigger bodies, he get pushed off the footy WAY too easily. Congratulations to him though because for his height and where he came from, he's done a great job. You just can't see him in our best 22 for much longer.
Hasn't been in our best 22 for a few years now.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:34 pm
by John Wren
thompsoc wrote:Mugwump wrote:That explains it. You're confusing Jarryd Blair with the lady in the hot dog stand. Blair's the bloke wearing No 11 going round in the black and white. The lady in the hot dog stand is blonde that smells a bit like boiling pork. She's definitely not part of our best 22.
That is really funny.
Great come back line.
I concede I can't beat that.
I promise I won't post in this thread again.
You win.
you promised.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:39 pm
by Member 7167
thompsoc wrote:SwansWay wrote:Blair tries his heart out but he doesn't have many elements to his game. He's a good honest player and unfortunately against the better side with bigger bodies, he get pushed off the footy WAY too easily. Congratulations to him though because for his height and where he came from, he's done a great job. You just can't see him in our best 22 for much longer.
Hasn't been in our best 22 for a few years now.
That is certainly not an opinion shared by the last two Collingwood coaches, the Collingwood game selection committee over recent years and I suspect the majority of Nicksters and supporters. No one thinks he is elite.
That fact the he has played so many games despite his deficiency in height and size is testimony to his courage and tenacity.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:45 pm
by thompsoc
John Wren wrote:thompsoc wrote:Mugwump wrote:That explains it. You're confusing Jarryd Blair with the lady in the hot dog stand. Blair's the bloke wearing No 11 going round in the black and white. The lady in the hot dog stand is blonde that smells a bit like boiling pork. She's definitely not part of our best 22.
That is really funny.
Great come back line.
I concede I can't beat that.
I promise I won't post in this thread again.
You win.
you promised.
I forgot !!!!!!!
Yes, I double promise I will not post in this thread again.
A promise is a promise and I blew It
Sorry. That was such a great comeback line I laughed for ages.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:27 pm
by Collingwood Crackerjack
Dangles wrote:Maybe we should run a poll about who the most maligned person is at Collingwood out of: Jesse White, Jarryd Blair, Nathan Buckley, Eddie McGuire and Travis Cloke.
Plenty of nooses to go round Dangles