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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:58 pm
by Tannin
After their great services to football tonight, and their excellent defence of our four-in-a-row all-time record, I have changed my mind.
Footscray, if you want him, you can have Travis Cloke free of charge, with our thanks and blessings. Thanks to your magnificent win tonight, our record is safe for another generation.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:34 am
by King Monkey
skaman wrote:How come when it comes to trade deals our players to be worth zero to nothing. If Cloke was at another club coming to us..he would be touted by his club as ..A premiership player. Age still good for 5 yrs, still one of the best contested marks in the league, a player that takes 2 opponents out of the occasion in a duel, fantastic clubman etc, etc
Forget that his time is up for Collingwood, I get that and agree. What I don't get, or want, is us to get bent over and pay heftily like other clubs do to us. If people are sayin he's only worth a 50+ pick, then I'm on planet Clare and know zilch about the caper. Geezus get a grip people. Play hardball Pies!
I think the club will be happy enough clearing the salary cap space rather than going in too hard for a higher pick or player and turning Footscray off.
I do hope we do get something decent for him though.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:00 am
by think positive
75% of workers change jobs because of their bosses, they don't quit jobs, they quit bosses.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:54 am
by thompsoc
What'sinaname wrote:Presti35 wrote:Piesnchess wrote:Dogs either ante up for Cloke, or deal off, tell em to get rooted. !
If the Dogs lose tonight, will they have pick 31?
Does that get it done? Or You reckon we'll be asking for that pick and a player like Dale or Jong?
A fair swap would be Bont for Cloke.
Isn't bont a great player.
Went 2 places below us to the dogs for pick 4
We had pick 6 and got a broken car wreck in the Berg
and the steak knives was freeman for pick 10 who played I think one NAB
game.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:23 am
by Mugwump
think positive wrote:75% of workers change jobs because of their bosses, they don't quit jobs, they quit bosses.
in 25% of cases, their bosses quit them. This is such a case. No idea whether the boss has it right, but based on Cloke's declining form over the last two years plus, I'd say it is time for a change.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:56 am
by Pies4shaw
I'm just pleased that we have so many A-grade options to take his place and improve the team. It would be different if we hadn't recruited Jeremy Cameron when GWS were trying to sign him up to a long-term deal.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:52 am
by Wokko
thompsoc wrote:
Isn't bont a great player.
Went 2 places below us to the dogs for pick 4
We had pick 6 and got a broken car wreck in the Berg
and the steak knives was freeman for pick 10 who played I think one NAB
game.
Shazza is going to be a great player and we upgraded Freeman to Aish who is working out fine.
It's a beautiful day, cheer up
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:27 am
by Monco Matt
Based on last night's performance the Dogs would be mad to recruit Cloke, he would stink up and clog up their agile/quick fwd line structure. If they did still pick him up old Trav may still find himself stuck in the VFL but on a smaller contract. A deserved ending to 4 years of putrid overpaid football.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:13 pm
by RudeBoy
Monco Matt wrote:Based on last night's performance the Dogs would be mad to recruit Cloke, he would stink up and clog up their agile/quick fwd line structure. If they did still pick him up old Trav may still find himself stuck in the VFL but on a smaller contract. A deserved ending to 4 years of putrid overpaid football.
Based on last night's game, Cloke is just what they need. Even with all his faults, Cloke is much better than Tom Boyd and he would provide a great contested marking target for them near goals. Unfortunately, he will continue to kick more points than goals.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:30 pm
by The Prototype
Oh I don't know, the Dogs seemed to be able to kick enough behinds last night without Cloke's help.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:35 pm
by Piesnchess
Monco Matt wrote:Based on last night's performance the Dogs would be mad to recruit Cloke, he would stink up and clog up their agile/quick fwd line structure. If they did still pick him up old Trav may still find himself stuck in the VFL but on a smaller contract. A deserved ending to 4 years of putrid overpaid football.
My thoughts exactly, he will stink up their attractive forward line, and will just be an emergency insurance, for injuries. He will play out his career as a bit player, in the VFL. I wonder how old man Demir Cloke will handle that ??
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:36 pm
by Pies4shaw
Monco Matt wrote:Based on last night's performance the Dogs would be mad to recruit Cloke, he would stink up and clog up their agile/quick fwd line structure. If they did still pick him up old Trav may still find himself stuck in the VFL but on a smaller contract. A deserved ending to 4 years of putrid overpaid football.
Those 4 "putrid" years include 3 over which he kicked 141 goals at an average of 2.4 goals per game. Lucky for us we have plenty of players on the list who do better than that most years. His 2016 season was extremely disappointing - but let's not kid ourselves about the ease with which the contribution he made at his peak will be replaced.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:43 pm
by AN_Inkling
RudeBoy wrote:Monco Matt wrote:Based on last night's performance the Dogs would be mad to recruit Cloke, he would stink up and clog up their agile/quick fwd line structure. If they did still pick him up old Trav may still find himself stuck in the VFL but on a smaller contract. A deserved ending to 4 years of putrid overpaid football.
Based on last night's game, Cloke is just what they need. Even with all his faults, Cloke is much better than Tom Boyd and he would provide a great contested marking target for them near goals. Unfortunately, he will continue to kick more points than goals.
No. Boyd's coming on well for a young tall. Cloke is not likely to be a first choice player. He'll start as a backup for Redpath who's had a history of injuries. As the season goes on he and Crameri will probably battle for the same spot.
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:16 pm
by piedys
thompsoc wrote:What'sinaname wrote:
A fair swap would be Bont for Cloke.
Isn't bont a great player.
Went 2 places below us to the dogs for pick 4
We had pick 6 and got a broken car wreck in the Berg
and the steak knives was freeman for pick 10 who played I think one NAB
game.
Yep, we crushed it at the draft that year; not...
One could argue Hine should be sacked on the back of this draft alone.
Tell ya what, St.Vomit must be close to blowing their brains out selecting Billings. Solid player, but no Bonte.
1 Tom Boyd Greater Western Sydney Eastern U18 2013
2 Joshua Kelly Greater Western Sydney Sandringham U18 2013
3 Jack Billings St Kilda Oakleigh U18 2013
4 Marcus Bontempelli Western Bulldogs Northern U18 2013
5 Kade Kolodjashnij Gold Coast Launceston 2013
6 Matthew Scharenberg Collingwood Glenelg 2013
7 James Aish Brisbane Lions Norwood 2013
8 Luke McDonald North Melbourne Werribee 2013
9 Christian Salem Melbourne Sandringham U18 2013
10 Nathan Freeman Collingwood Sandringham U18 2013
11 Dom Sheed West Coast Subiaco 2013
12 Ben Lennon Richmond Northern U18 2013
13 Patrick Cripps Carlton East Fremantle 2013
14 Cam McCarthy Greater Western Sydney South Fremantle 201
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:29 pm
by makri
After last night I was struggling to see how Cloke would get into the Bulldogs team. Can't even see him getting a game in their reserves after today.