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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:18 pm
by MJ23
Im at the point now where I can see the club moving forward with or without him. I want him to stay, I want him to get paid well. I dont want it to be at the expense of any senior players.
Im not sure why he wouldnt be looking at "after footy" life. I mean youd think if he stays at the pies there would be a few years after footy of employment. We are one of a few teams who can employ extended coaching staff with our VFL side and can afford it.
wouldnt think that would happen if he leaves.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:33 pm
by Magpie Jack
My opinion is Cloke should never have gone public on what Freo had offered. Good luck to anyone who goes into any type of negotiation with the Clokes expecting discretion. I would re-sign the other 5 players and forget Cloke. He's probably already signed up for Richmond next year.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:37 pm
by swoop42
Football players and especially stars of the game receive perks your average Joe would never get.
I always laugh when I see one of our players tweet recommending an eatery they've just had a meal at cause you suspect they receive something in return for it
Funny how often those who can most afford to pay for everything and anything are the ones in the position to receive freebies in return for not much.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:02 pm
by Piesnchess
ONE would think $700 000 K for four years is more than enough, for chasing a lump of pigskin on a grassy oval. Come and live in the real world for awhile, these high priced sportsman. Most young blokes in ordinary slave wage jobs would be rapt to be on what he is being offered by the Pies. ! Just Greed.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:04 pm
by Nash Rising
Piesnchess wrote:ONE would think $700 000 K for four years is more than enough, for chasing a lump of pigskin on a grassy oval. Come and live in the real world for awhile, these high priced sportsman. Most young blokes in ordinary slave wage jobs would be rapt to be on what he is being offered by the Pies. ! Just Greed.
How do you know what the offer is?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:05 pm
by HAL
Piesnchess wrote:ONE would think $700 000 K for four years is more than enough, for chasing a lump of pigskin on a grassy oval. Come and live in the real world for awhile, these high priced sportsman. Most young blokes in ordinary slave wage jobs would be rapt to be on what he is being offered by the Pies. ! Just Greed.
Where in Holland? Is this an invitation? GREED is an important factor.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:05 pm
by Piesnchess
^ Everyman and his dog knows thats the Pies offer.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:11 pm
by ANNODAM
^ It doesn't matter what the exact $ offer is mate.
Don't forget all the perks that come with being an AFL footballer.
Who do you think pays for those?
Let's face it, any wage over $300K is a big wage.
I doubt any of us here earn anywhere near that much, if you are, you're damn bloody lucky!
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:18 pm
by think positive
ANNODAM wrote:^ It doesn't matter what the exact $ offer is mate.
Don't forget all the perks that come with being an AFL footballer.
Who do you think pays for those?
Let's face it, any wage over $300K is a big wage.
I doubt any of us here earn anywhere near that much, if you are, you're damn bloody lucky!
Yep, free trips, boots, clothes, etc etc etc plus doing what you love for a big living, heaps of free time. Pure greed.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:20 pm
by Tpaxava
FWIW I am not too concerned with what happens with Clokes' contract... All I know is that the Mighty Pies will thrive (with or without him)!
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:52 pm
by blackandwhite4life
If Trav decides to take the Carlton bait (call it paranoia but I'm starting to smell their dirty influence) he will experience hatred on a level that no other Australian sportsman has probably ever encountered.
Not sure whether the extra couple of hundred thousand would be worth it. And even with Cloke, they would be still only able to dream of a flag with their current list.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:10 pm
by Mountains Magpie
Ah well, whatever happens, let's get as many games into Paine as we can.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 pm
by Magpie Jack
Mountains Magpie wrote:Ah well, whatever happens, let's get as many games into Paine as we can.
Well said.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 pm
by RudeBoy
stui magpie wrote:Yay, it looks like all the crap has been put into the one bucket.
FWIW, my POV is this.
Trav's stated preference is to stay with the Pies.
He is perfectly entitled to try to get the best deal he can and weigh up his options and he and his management are doing that.
This is a big deal contract. At 25 this contract will see him through his prime years. It's a small window to maximise your earnings because by the time he's 35 he won't be earning anything like this from a salary.
Goodonya Trav, Goodonya Pies. you'll work it out.
Then all the people who've bagged Trav in this thread can get on with cheering for him on the ground.
Mate, I normally agree with your views stui, but on this occasion I think you miss the point. I agree that he is entitled to negotiate to get a good deal for himself. What I, and others, am upset about is him using a TV show to pressure the club. It should all be done in-house. It was unedifying and selfish of him to be discussing million dollar offers from other clubs, and even suggesting that he has friends at Carlton. I reckon he's our most important player, but after that pathetic effort, I almost want him to phuk off.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:20 pm
by Deja Vu
Who are Carlton going to offload to make room for Cloke's million?