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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:48 am
by Mr Miyagi
Ollie spotted buying cat food today.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:02 pm
by Boot
I'm coming around to the fact that Olliver Henry wants to be traded to Geelong. Now I'm trying to see what Collingwood can recover from the bad news being the loss of Grundy to Melbourne, Henry to Geelong and Poulter to Adelaide.
Geelong is reportedly going to trade to receive a player, Jack Bowes, and his salary from Gold Coast Suns as well as their Pick 7 in this years draft. I want that Pick 7 for Ollie Henry.
Apparently the deal is done for Grundy to move to Melbourne with Collingwood agreeing to pay for a portion of his salary. ( Madness I know but what can you do?) For such a gift I want the draft picks that Fremantle give up for Jackson which I expect will be Pick 15 and 33.
For Poulter to be released to Adelaide I expect that a straight swap for Billy Frampton will be done.
Hence these trades will leave Collingwood with the following picks in the November draft;
Picks: 7,15,16,33, 44 and some third round picks which might be swapped around with Brisbane to allow them better leverage to pick up their father / son recruits and upgrade our picks.
Thus for the loss of Grundy, Henry and Poulter we look like getting the following additions to our squad;
Dan McStay, Tom Mitchell, Bobby Hill, Brayden Fiorini, and Billy Frampton and still have the following first round picks 7, 15 and 16. I'm sure that none of those incoming players match the class of Grundy and Henry but maybe we can pick up some class to compensate us with those first round picks.
Those five incoming players will add to Collingwoods depth and so I expect our VFL team to perform very well next season but I'm not sure they will add much to the AFL performance but maybe their addition to the team to fill roles will free up others to better contribute to team success. In McRae we trust.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:36 pm
by inxs88
Boot wrote:I'm coming around to the fact that Olliver Henry wants to be traded to Geelong. Now I'm trying to see what Collingwood can recover from the bad news being the loss of Grundy to Melbourne, Henry to Geelong and Poulter to Adelaide.
Geelong is reportedly going to trade to receive a player, Jack Bowes, and his salary from Gold Coast Suns as well as their Pick 7 in this years draft. I want that Pick 7 for Ollie Henry.
Apparently the deal is done for Grundy to move to Melbourne with Collingwood agreeing to pay for a portion of his salary. ( Madness I know but what can you do?) For such a gift I want the draft picks that Fremantle give up for Jackson which I expect will be Pick 15 and 33.
For Poulter to be released to Adelaide I expect that a straight swap for Billy Frampton will be done.
Hence these trades will leave Collingwood with the following picks in the November draft;
Picks: 7,15,16,33, 44 and some third round picks which might be swapped around with Brisbane to allow them better leverage to pick up their father / son recruits and upgrade our picks.
Thus for the loss of Grundy, Henry and Poulter we look like getting the following additions to our squad;
Dan McStay, Tom Mitchell, Bobby Hill, Brayden Fiorini, and Billy Frampton and still have the following first round picks 7, 15 and 16. I'm sure that none of those incoming players match the class of Grundy and Henry but maybe we can pick up some class to compensate us with those first round picks.
Those five incoming players will add to Collingwoods depth and so I expect our VFL team to perform very well next season but I'm not sure they will add much to the AFL performance but maybe their addition to the team to fill roles will free up others to better contribute to team success. In McRae we trust.
The Poulter to Crows for Frampton would undoubtedly require a pick coming back our way given Caleb's currency being a tad higher than Frampton's.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:41 pm
by Pebbles Rocks
inxs88 wrote:The Poulter to Crows for Frampton would undoubtedly require a pick coming back our way given Caleb's currency being a tad higher than Frampton's.
AS much as I like Poulter, he played one game this year and did not set the reserves on fire. On the other hand Frampton is a key position player who by many respects had a better season. In my view there is not a lot of difference.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:10 pm
by derkd
Boot wrote:I'm coming around to the fact that Olliver Henry wants to be traded to Geelong. Now I'm trying to see what Collingwood can recover from the bad news being the loss of Grundy to Melbourne, Henry to Geelong and Poulter to Adelaide.
Geelong is reportedly going to trade to receive a player, Jack Bowes, and his salary from Gold Coast Suns as well as their Pick 7 in this years draft. I want that Pick 7 for Ollie Henry.
Apparently the deal is done for Grundy to move to Melbourne with Collingwood agreeing to pay for a portion of his salary. ( Madness I know but what can you do?) For such a gift I want the draft picks that Fremantle give up for Jackson which I expect will be Pick 15 and 33.
For Poulter to be released to Adelaide I expect that a straight swap for Billy Frampton will be done.
Hence these trades will leave Collingwood with the following picks in the November draft;
Picks: 7,15,16,33, 44 and some third round picks which might be swapped around with Brisbane to allow them better leverage to pick up their father / son recruits and upgrade our picks.
Thus for the loss of Grundy, Henry and Poulter we look like getting the following additions to our squad;
Dan McStay, Tom Mitchell, Bobby Hill, Brayden Fiorini, and Billy Frampton and still have the following first round picks 7, 15 and 16. I'm sure that none of those incoming players match the class of Grundy and Henry but maybe we can pick up some class to compensate us with those first round picks.
Those five incoming players will add to Collingwoods depth and so I expect our VFL team to perform very well next season but I'm not sure they will add much to the AFL performance but maybe their addition to the team to fill roles will free up others to better contribute to team success. In McRae we trust.
Don't like the chances of getting pick.7 for Ollie, problem is he is out of contact and can walk for nothing (as unlikely as it seems). I think Collingwood will settle for Geelong's future first. This could still be a massive win, Having now won 'the flag' they wanted and with so many players near retirement...they might just drop off the cliff...future first could end up being a top 10 pick.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:12 pm
by tbaker
Boot wrote:I'm coming around to the fact that Olliver Henry wants to be traded to Geelong.
I too am coming around to the idea of him leaving. I don't want him to leave - I think he will be a star - but it's warning signs now at his first contract negotiation that he is wanting more $$ despite not yet being worthy of it. It is a sign of things to come, where he'll potentially pull the same stunt every renegotiation. Pay me more, or else...

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:29 pm
by Pies2016
^^^
Nothing wrong with wanting pick 7 ( assuming it made its way to the Cats ) but we won’t be getting it. Now that the Cats have won the flag, they start the draft period with pick 18 which will drift out to #20 on the night after Ashcroft and Fletcher are called out as F / S nominations in the first round.
Selection 20 ( on the night ) may yet come into play for Henry, although the Bruhn trade muddies the water a bit with possible outcomes.
Given that Henry is out of contract, any eventual return that involved pick 20 would be a great return. That’s the reality of a player who is out of contract and seemingly wanting out. The club would happily take that option long before they ever thought of throwing it away and beating their chest about sending Henry to the PSD.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:31 pm
by inxs88
tbaker wrote:
Boot wrote:I'm coming around to the fact that Olliver Henry wants to be traded to Geelong.
I too am coming around to the idea of him leaving. I don't want him to leave - I think he will be a star - but it's warning signs now at his first contract negotiation that he is wanting more $$ despite not yet being worthy of it. It is a sign of things to come, where he'll potentially pull the same stunt every renegotiation. Pay me more, or else...
It's quite pathetic

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:30 pm
by Mr Miyagi
Ollie was spotted eating a pie in Geelong

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:12 pm
by Presti35
Just as long as the roumers about a video leak of him eating pussy aren't true.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:49 pm
by derkd
Presti35 wrote:Just as long as the roumers about a video leak of him eating pussy aren't true.
Yeah what did the cat do to deserve that :(

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:04 pm
by Cam
I saw a rumour that I want to believe that the contract might be extended to 3 years instead of 2 to facilitate him staying.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:20 pm
by Mr Miyagi
I’m not keen on signing a player who’s head and heart are somewhere else though. Either he wants to play for Collingwood or he doesn’t.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:10 pm
by Charlie Oneeye
A first round pick decides to leave after his first contract expires, just to go home 50K up the road.

And Tanner Brun departing too.

Both Geelong boys

I suspect Geelong with an ageing list, had been in their ear from the day they got drafted.

Maybe there should be a new rule, first round player can't nominate his club of choice until he has been with his original club for 4 years.

Unless it is for humanitarian reasons, approved by the AFL.


It gives the recruiting club full potential value after having spent the first 2 years developing the player.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:33 am
by piedys
Charlie Oneeye wrote:Maybe there should be a new rule, first round player can't nominate his club of choice until he has been with his original club for 4 years.

Unless it is for humanitarian reasons, approved by the AFL.


It gives the recruiting club full potential value after having spent the first 2 years developing the player.
All restraint of trade mate; as it is, the AwFuL are lucky the draft system hasn't been dismantled in court already.