The "What do we get for Beams?" thread

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Defender wrote:he isn't going to give up a years salary.
I imagine he would also be open to a breach of contract suit if he try to just stand out for a year. I dont think it would come to this as he's a professional footballer. If a dealdoesnt get done hell play for us to the best of his ability.
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So if you had to choose between 5 and 25 or Aish and 25 what would it be?

While Beams is worth 5 and Aish I can't see that happening.

If Brisbane got to keep pick 5 then they might be more open to trading Aish.
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MJ23 wrote::oops: sorry yes meant Swann - the prick
( had Walsh on the brain for stuffing up Levi contract :wink: )
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swoop42 wrote:So if you had to choose between 5 and 25 or Aish and 25 what would it be?

While Beams is worth 5 and Aish I can't see that happening.

If Brisbane got to keep pick 5 then they might be more open to trading Aish.
If Aish signed a 3-4 year deal Id take Aish and 25. You know what you are getting.
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swoop42 wrote:So if you had to choose between 5 and 25 or Aish and 25 what would it be?

While Beams is worth 5 and Aish I can't see that happening.

If Brisbane got to keep pick 5 then they might be more open to trading Aish.
I reckon I'd probably go with, lets say, pick 5 and James Aish :P

Seriously, if Brisbane start giving us ultimatums, then we shut down talks with them.
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MJ23 wrote:
swoop42 wrote:So if you had to choose between 5 and 25 or Aish and 25 what would it be?

While Beams is worth 5 and Aish I can't see that happening.

If Brisbane got to keep pick 5 then they might be more open to trading Aish.
If Aish signed a 3-4 year deal Id take Aish and 25. You know what you are getting.
Absolutely. He was a pick 7 last year in arguably a stronger draft in the top end. Pick 5 this year isn't that attractive because we're after top end midfielders and after the top 2, there aren't any standouts.
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watt price tully wrote:I'm equivocating. I'm in two minds. Part of me says f*ck 'em. don't deal until we get our demands met.

The other part of me says picks 5 & 25 are pretty good. I'm concerned that Geelong with Christiansen might restrict what the Lions can offer us.

Too many choices. I think I liked when I was a kid & Dad made all the decisions :wink:
Then that's a problem for the Brions to orchestrate how they get both players and determining who is the higher priority. They're more than welcome to retain the pick 25 they will so desperately need to secure Christiansen, just add Redden to the pick 5 they're offering us. Or find another 1st round pick to add to the 5 offer for us.
This is what gets me for them to find another first round pick they will have to offload probably one of the players on our shortlist, so why not just give us that player with pick 5.

I think 5 and Redden is fair when GWS are spruiking 4 & 7 for Griffen.
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Johnno75 wrote:I think 5 and Redden is fair when GWS are spruiking 4 & 7 for Griffen.
WHY is it that the Brions don't see the logic of this trade?

Is it me or maybe deep down they really DON'T want Beams (having had him force himself on them) but are merely going through the motions to ultimately say that they tried?
Otherwise it just doesn't make any sense comparing the two deals... :roll:
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Lazza wrote:
Johnno75 wrote:I think 5 and Redden is fair when GWS are spruiking 4 & 7 for Griffen.
WHY is it that the Brions don't see the logic of this trade?

Is it me or maybe deep down they really DON'T want Beams (having had him force himself on them) but are merely going through the motions to ultimately say that they tried?
Otherwise it just doesn't make any sense comparing the two deals... :roll:
Nonsense. Any club would step over their own mother to get Beams on their list. They just want him for unders plain and simple.
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Az wrote:
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Johnno75 wrote:I think 5 and Redden is fair when GWS are spruiking 4 & 7 for Griffen.
WHY is it that the Brions don't see the logic of this trade?

Is it me or maybe deep down they really DON'T want Beams (having had him force himself on them) but are merely going through the motions to ultimately say that they tried?
Otherwise it just doesn't make any sense comparing the two deals... :roll:
Nonsense. Any club would step over their own mother to get Beams on their list. They just want him for unders plain and simple.
Well, call their bluff then I say.... :idea:

Deal as WE want it or no deal. Stuff them is the most popular comment going around at the moment.

It's bloody obvious (and frankly insulting to Beams) that they don't rate Beams as much as WE rate him.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-09/l ... gws-switch

Sorry Lions but if you're only going to be offering draft selections for Beams then that pick 21 can come to us as well as pick 5 and 25.

It might get the deal done assuming we can hold on to pick 21 and only have to use 25 on Greenwood.
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Fantastic to hear the board agrees with most of us. If we aren't happy with the offer, we see if GCS, GWS or the swans are interested. If not, he stays and we revisit the scenario next year.

5 and 25 would need to be supplemented by another pick (late first, early second round) for the deal to be satisfactory, IMO.
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I'm not too good with negative counterfactuals.
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roar wrote:Fantastic to hear the board agrees with most of us. If we aren't happy with the offer, we see if GCS, GWS or the swans are interested. If not, he stays and we revisit the scenario next year.

5 and 25 would need to be supplemented by another pick (late first, early second round) for the deal to be satisfactory, IMO.
Or very simply, add a player who has been nominated by the 'pies.

If they are actively NOT looking for a solution, they are PART of the bloody problem.... :roll:

Collingwood are better advised to look elsewhere for a solution or indeed do nothing, which itself is a solution option.
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